[syndicate] Baudrillard on riots, on EU referendum, etc.

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Le 20 nov. 05, à 14:58, Aliette Guibert a écrit :

> Dear Saint Paul
>
> Could'nt you imagine anymore than your fascination of intolerance and  
> war of
> the truth under the words of your former activist references instead  
> of your
> real vision and perception of your actual environment? Wouldn't it be  
> a form
> of negationism to deny the actual through former credo in an eternal
> repetition of the past.
>
> Why do you think that International Situationism they would have stop
> existing as several common by a common decision from their own  
> agreement, to
> dissolve -or a pragmatical political problem facing the events and the
> virtual capital growing up through the general equivalence - money?
>
> Nowadays we are still into but yet out and far away La société du  
> spectacle
> as predictable society and revolution and more of the future. We are  
> in a
> global conter-revolution obviously - open your eyes.
>
> The means are not still global but singular - united several thoughts,
> several singular situations and concepts : not one.
>
> Which is exactly why I found relevant A hacker manifesto. Not a credo  
> in the
> name of the truth. Much more little than the high Société du  
> spectacle. A
> text omanog others and calling for others from everywhere.
>
> But a hack as a long kaleidoscopic lyrics of another arangments. Of  
> another
> way to emerge in the acts.
>
> Debord was same time overpassed by his past vision of the revolution -
> overpassed by his own theory what is exactly he did not control of his  
> own
> thought - and in advance regarding the changing word at the horizon of  
> the
> spectacle of commodity; but we are not still in the material  
> commodity, we
> are in the virtual commodity (being richest without material ownership  
> - see
> google); yet now what is toward the spectacle -spectacle which is not
> necessary right now to this sort of dominion ; what it is necessary it  
> is
> only the GAME and specially the game of self detruction and the gameof  
> the
> other destruction being the war - addicting by the spectacle but being  
> so
> much more addicting in the head -without analogon. Same time Debord  
> could
> not imagine how the culture of the truth would desappear at the  
> horizon of
> the end of the system of the production - inside which his thought of a
> global revolution facing the spectacle it is contained - dépérissement  
> de
> l'Etat in USSR and the result they are to close the question of the
> proletarian dictatorship.
>
> When Nations they were singularly in respective antagonist: workers  
> have to
> be united globally. In the global trans-national world we have to  
> desunite
> global antagonist organization in singular solidar contructive
> organizations. Remember the way Gandi was successful in India against
> English that was predictable of another solution. Since more of a  
> century
> Indian from any community they were resisting in weapon front of  
> English and
> they were unusefully reprimed by English. And suddendly it was a  
> massive
> resistance without weapons (but hard) which got successfull over  
> English.
> The way was not that one of URSS borning nor the way of La longue  
> marche. So
> right now we have to innove another conception of struggle in marge of  
> the
> work ( a lot have no work right now or work which is not exactly at the
> source of the largest surplus - being now financial - momey making  
> money in
> the set of the financial game of the holdings)
>
> Which common interest of revolutionary activists and people from  
> everywhere
> could have in progress with the real economy of nowadays? Where is the
> common progress please and to which utopia -or the conterprogress of Le
> meilleur des mondes de Huxley or a dictatorship from a horde over  
> another
> hord: nothing - but a dictatorship at all and to any war?
>
> I am afraid that Baudrillard, practicing dialectic in the respective  
> entropy
> of each part to its other, unfortunatly he could be in the adapted  
> logical
> thought front of the reality he describes.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frederic Madre" <fmadre at free.fr>
> To: <syndicate at anart.no>
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 1:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [syndicate] Baudrillard on riots, on EU referendum, etc.
>
>
>> 115.
>>
>> The new signs of negation multiplying in the economically developed
>> countries, signs which are misunderstood and falsified by spectacular
>> arrangement, already enable us to draw the conclusion that a new  
>> epoch has
>> begun: now, after the workers' first attempt at subversion,it is
> capitalist
>> abundance which has failed. When anti-union struggles of Western  
>> workers
> are
>> repressed first of all by unions, and when the first amorphous  
>> protests
>> launched by rebellious currents of youth directly imply the rejection  
>> of
> the
>> old specialized politics, of art and of daily life, we see two sides  
>> of a
>> new spontaneous struggle which begins under a criminal guise. These  
>> are
> the
>> portents of a second proletarian assault against class society. When  
>> the
>> last children of this still immobile army reappear on this  
>> battleground
>> which was altered and yet remains the same, they follow a new "General
> Ludd"
>> who, this time, urges them to destroy the machines of permitted
> consumption.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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