[syndicate] Re: ko (fwd)

[fmadre at free.fr]

Oh, it's all just poetry, innit ?

sometimes I read it, sometimes not
doesn't the syndicate homepage indicate how to use filters ?
and why does it so ? it's a mistake to forget history
in our case it would be a terrible mistake

also, during my panel talk at the sorbonne conference I was making this point
which is that nearly everything on the internet is ineffectual
(except for what is tautologically internet related)

I see no violence here
just words

f.

Selon anna balint <epistolaris at freemail.hu>:
> I think it is more than self-immolation of nn or DG.
> I beleive not just that violence is inherent to nn's language, 
> but these lines are simply instigating. 
> 
> >no he does not. he is not a human being. he is a MOTHER FUCKER.
> >Appeasing MOTHER FUCKERS is not an act of friendliness.
> >Liquidating them is an act of friendliness so, please continue.
> 
> Since i have learnt conflict resolution, i know too well
> the techniques of  making conflicts. First dehumanize the 
> counter/part, the other, and than liquidate them.
> And all this happens in a context where many people experience how short
> the distance is between hate words and violent acts. 
> 
> For all i know syndicate was among the few lists
> that was always open not just for announcements, 
> criticism, but also for art productions.
> But this time any further coexistence with nn became impossible
> for me.
> 
> I don't know what the other members think, or if there is anybody
> who would like to continue the list's moderation in my place,
> but if there is no administrative measure i can take against hate
> speech, i am going to quit the list.
> 
> greetings,
> Anna 
> 
> 
> Appeasing MOTHER FUCKERS is not an act of friendliness.
> Liquidating them is an act of friendliness so, please continue.
> 3/24/2004 12:17:18 PM, Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
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> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:16:50 -0500 (EST)
> >From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>
> >To: Poetics <POETICS at listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu>
> >Subject: ko
> >
> >
> >
> >somebody ko/ing ginsberg, nn's occidental motherfuckers
> >
> >i've wanted to write and quite unsure how to begin
> >none of us are safe from attack innuendo
> >there is no persepctive but the present which is always ripped apart
> >
> >ginsberg's howl freed me then and frees me now
> >he was an outspoken jew among others and other things
> >he read with the force of the rav derrida deconstructing abomb america
> >i read him first at 13 then on and off forever
> >
> >but the point of the hatred here after the fact and the era
> >coupled with anne's publicity blurb when something else was needed
> >
> >and over there on syndicate nn seems self-immolating
> >whether she's a corporate entity on the run
> >or someone going through a hard political time
> >violence inheres to her, she drags the slaughter with her
> >
> >and it seems to me that the thugs in power have already won
> >rumsfeld and hamas and israel all tearing everything limb from limb
> >spam's brought 29% already using email less and less
> >who wants to read the violence of viagra the violence of fraud
> >
> >bush and blair thug-script leaks into what was once communality
> >and when i heard allen read it was that, community around him
> >the gathering and the chanting which actually worked and overcame
> >if just for a moment
> >
> >and nn had her sense of human but now drags skulls
> >like i said, like i said
> >my own words and works try to burst their bounds, there's more hatred
> >
> >there are mother-fuckers everywhere, why not deconstruct those words
> >
> >for myself, i have to admit indiscretions in the past
> >psychological violence to other people, self-destruction, whimpering
> >inability to see people for who or what they really are
> >i'm more guilty than ginsberg, my soul is ash at best
> >
> >eleven years or so after auschwitz and he's penning howl
> >against a smug america which today runs our country to the ground
> >
> >if we can't learn to listen, we won't die trying, we'll just die
> >
> >god or someone else help us, or someone else
> >
> >
> >_
> >
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