ko (fwd)

[anna balint]

I think it is more than self-immolation of nn or DG.
I beleive not just that violence is inherent to nn's language, 
but these lines are simply instigating. 

>no he does not. he is not a human being. he is a MOTHER FUCKER.
>Appeasing MOTHER FUCKERS is not an act of friendliness.
>Liquidating them is an act of friendliness so, please continue.

Since i have learnt conflict resolution, i know too well
the techniques of  making conflicts. First dehumanize the 
counter/part, the other, and than liquidate them.
And all this happens in a context where many people experience how short
the distance is between hate words and violent acts. 

For all i know syndicate was among the few lists
that was always open not just for announcements, 
criticism, but also for art productions.
But this time any further coexistence with nn became impossible
for me.

I don't know what the other members think, or if there is anybody
who would like to continue the list's moderation in my place,
but if there is no administrative measure i can take against hate
speech, i am going to quit the list.

greetings,
Anna 


Appeasing MOTHER FUCKERS is not an act of friendliness.
Liquidating them is an act of friendliness so, please continue.
3/24/2004 12:17:18 PM, Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:

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>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:16:50 -0500 (EST)
>From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>
>To: Poetics <POETICS at listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu>
>Subject: ko
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>somebody ko/ing ginsberg, nn's occidental motherfuckers
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>i've wanted to write and quite unsure how to begin
>none of us are safe from attack innuendo
>there is no persepctive but the present which is always ripped apart
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>ginsberg's howl freed me then and frees me now
>he was an outspoken jew among others and other things
>he read with the force of the rav derrida deconstructing abomb america
>i read him first at 13 then on and off forever
>
>but the point of the hatred here after the fact and the era
>coupled with anne's publicity blurb when something else was needed
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>and over there on syndicate nn seems self-immolating
>whether she's a corporate entity on the run
>or someone going through a hard political time
>violence inheres to her, she drags the slaughter with her
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>and it seems to me that the thugs in power have already won
>rumsfeld and hamas and israel all tearing everything limb from limb
>spam's brought 29% already using email less and less
>who wants to read the violence of viagra the violence of fraud
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>bush and blair thug-script leaks into what was once communality
>and when i heard allen read it was that, community around him
>the gathering and the chanting which actually worked and overcame
>if just for a moment
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>and nn had her sense of human but now drags skulls
>like i said, like i said
>my own words and works try to burst their bounds, there's more hatred
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>there are mother-fuckers everywhere, why not deconstruct those words
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>for myself, i have to admit indiscretions in the past
>psychological violence to other people, self-destruction, whimpering
>inability to see people for who or what they really are
>i'm more guilty than ginsberg, my soul is ash at best
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>eleven years or so after auschwitz and he's penning howl
>against a smug america which today runs our country to the ground
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>if we can't learn to listen, we won't die trying, we'll just die
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>god or someone else help us, or someone else
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