[syndicate] mez

[self re:ply.cator]

At 09:35 AM 3/13/2002 +0100, you wrote:

>yes, mez, but you also did not answer a few questions, which would be 
>quite interesting
>to clearify a few issues of net.working, which in my oppinion, support an 
>establishment of hierarchical orders on the net

ok, can u ][re][ask me then and i'll do my best 2 answer.



>>i had previous thought that yes, my cross-posting 2 syndicate where 
>>appreciated and treated as information n.cidents|pulses that added 2 the 
>>list community. if this is not the case, let me know and i'll stop sending.
>
>yes, this is interesting ..
>that's what I do not understand .. if you think it is right what you do, 
>then do it, but do not ask
>asking contradicts your work in my opinion ... this is what I meant ... 
>asking establishes hierarchical orders

yes, it does n.deed. asking does establish hierarchical orders. so i guess 
in terms of that u will perceive my postings as operating under|within a 
hierarchy.

i'd lurve 2 assume that a ][l(ectronic)atent][consciousness is operational 
in terms of a net.worked arena, 1 that values information in terms of a 
context in which elements r replicated & sequenced in burgeoning waves, in 
a weave & flow of accented [code language|emulation] patches that r 
all-pervading & lapping @|thru-o][p][ut m.mersed personas....but if a 
mailing list community|online forum actively rewires itself in2 a 
traditional segregation-of-information pattern via channels that act 2 
preserve individuals from information x.posure [such as moderator action 
regarding cross-posting] then i will _ask_ if it is ok 2 post, as that open 
source system of free-flow inflow has been 4gorn in favour of 
real-time|print|snail-mail m.ulation....a response in a climate that 
provokes it...........


>there is no one you could ask if there are no hierarchical orders in the 
>info.flow
>and if you accept the hierarchical orders, then I do not understand why 
>you are annoyed about fibreculture excluding you

yes, u wouldn't. [this is ok].
& i'm not annoyed @ the x.clusion, i am disappointed.  there is a 
substantial difference.


>no

..so in yr opinion how should i n.gage the syndicate forum? how can i 
assist in helping 2 build alternative channels?



>we are non.hierarchical

so u state syndicate is non-hierarchical....so yr future plans @ proposed 
guidelines/possible moderator interventions is also non-hierarchical?
[i don't understand this].

>I wonder who should decide this
>we count on every one deciding him/herself and being exposed to discussion
>how you deal with this is your decision

ok, so in terms of a cohesive collusion, there is none.


>>no, its apparently not my decision, especially if u chose [in the future] 
>>to moderate cross-postings and m.plement a policy that x.ludes 
>>types|modes of dia|multilogue in favour of mimicking real-time 
>>conventions|x.changes only......
>
>self.moderation is a client side moderation - non.hierarchical
>it would not be so much different from setting a filter or not, which 
>every one can do in any case also now
>this was discussed on the list
>you should forget about the structures of other mailing lists ... think it 
>new !
>Syndicate is based on a network thinking, which is non.hierarchical and 
>all we do is maintaining this
>but in case there should be very many people suggesting that they cannot 
>deal with the very many posts
>we might invent an tool to do selection every one on his/her own !

..a little like individual subscribers using filters, but with a 
centralised locus-of-control in terms of m.plementation?


>>>it's her needing channels for her art
>>>and there are very many ways to build some if there are enough people 
>>>engaging
>>
>>n.deed c.
>
>you see
>
>
>>fustrating.lee,
>
>you should be happy ... decide on your own )

..it always gets back 2 that. individualisation.
yes, in this climate, i will decide on my own, as that d.fines the 
wiring-below-the-forum-board.

thx 4 the clarifications C,
mez




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