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Peter Luining email at ctrlaltdel.org
Wed Apr 24 21:10:38 CEST 2002


in 1982 Joseph Beuys recorded a song with the band BAP called:
"Sonne statt Reagan" probably one of the few times he made
he came into touch with the real world

http://www.bap-fan.de/bap-sonnestattreagan.html

*btw think beuys was of immense value for 20th art


ppppllllllllll



valentina culpa wrote:
> 
>                        i read today
>                             josef
>                              beuys
>                               in interview
>                                with writer
>                                 ³ writing as sculpture ²
>                                        a book in a
>                                      bookshop.
>                                     so
>                               beuys answers
>                          some question
>                           i do not know
>                                 what the question
>                                      was
>                         and i paraphrase
>                               from
>                             my 20
>                            seconds
>                              with
>                        this page:
>                      ΠI do not
>                             believe that
>                                  Europe needs
>                                   a European Government.
>                                     I do not
>                                      think that a European
>                                     government
>                                    is a good idea.
>                                 At best it would be
>                              only a copy
>                          of the
>                        American government
>                             and I do not
>                          believe that the
>                        American federal
>                          system works.
>                               I do not believe
>                                  that government is
>                                     a good thing
>                            because government
>                            is about control
>                               and not
>                           about freedom.
>                          Government tells
>                         people what
>                      to do. I do not
>                    think this is
>                  a good thing.¹
>                           also
>                           Œi asked
>                               Andy Warhol
>                                  who he thought were
>                                           the best artists
>                                          today
>                                    and he said
>                                   Œsomebody big¹
>                             and i asked him
>                                      more
>                                    and he said
>                                he thought
>                               Œall workers
>                            are artists¹
>                             and
>                         you know
>                            I think that
>                               I think that
>                           too.¹
>                           and there was something
>                     else
>                      about Europe
>                       being complicated
>                         about how you
>                            need to negotiate
>                                between all the
>                               different
>                           countries to
>                     get any agreement on
>                  any European action
>                           and somehow this
>                             also was
>                              a good thing.
>                             i
>                   think only
>                 that
>             new amsterdam
>            new york
>             new anywhere
>            are
>            places.
>             you know
>                politics is a
>                  career
>                    formed out
>                       of drinking
>                          and eating
>                            together.
>                      politics is
>                 finally
>                about
>            cities and
>            what those
>              cities are.
>              in rome
>               actors
>                were not allowed
>               to be
>              politicians
>             or to be part
>           of the voting
>              processes
>                  because
>                   Scipio Africanus
>                      ³the best man in Rome²
>                         believed that
>                            all actors
>                             were immoral
>                              because theatre
>                            was a Greek
>                          idea and
>                       Rome should
>                     not be corrupted
>               by Greek ideas.
>              i think that
>           sometimes
>          now
>        politicians
>              can be
>                 bigger than
>                    cities
>                      but i do
>                       not necessarily
>                         think that all
>                           politicians
>                             are artists.
>                              i do think that
>                            some politicans
>                           and (i
>                        know this)
>                     also some
>                    artists
>                  expect art to
>                stand for politics.
> 
> :) v.
> 
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