[syndicate]
Peter Luining
email at ctrlaltdel.org
Wed Apr 24 21:10:38 CEST 2002
in 1982 Joseph Beuys recorded a song with the band BAP called:
"Sonne statt Reagan" probably one of the few times he made
he came into touch with the real world
http://www.bap-fan.de/bap-sonnestattreagan.html
*btw think beuys was of immense value for 20th art
ppppllllllllll
valentina culpa wrote:
>
> i read today
> josef
> beuys
> in interview
> with writer
> ³ writing as sculpture ²
> a book in a
> bookshop.
> so
> beuys answers
> some question
> i do not know
> what the question
> was
> and i paraphrase
> from
> my 20
> seconds
> with
> this page:
> I do not
> believe that
> Europe needs
> a European Government.
> I do not
> think that a European
> government
> is a good idea.
> At best it would be
> only a copy
> of the
> American government
> and I do not
> believe that the
> American federal
> system works.
> I do not believe
> that government is
> a good thing
> because government
> is about control
> and not
> about freedom.
> Government tells
> people what
> to do. I do not
> think this is
> a good thing.¹
> also
> i asked
> Andy Warhol
> who he thought were
> the best artists
> today
> and he said
> somebody big¹
> and i asked him
> more
> and he said
> he thought
> all workers
> are artists¹
> and
> you know
> I think that
> I think that
> too.¹
> and there was something
> else
> about Europe
> being complicated
> about how you
> need to negotiate
> between all the
> different
> countries to
> get any agreement on
> any European action
> and somehow this
> also was
> a good thing.
> i
> think only
> that
> new amsterdam
> new york
> new anywhere
> are
> places.
> you know
> politics is a
> career
> formed out
> of drinking
> and eating
> together.
> politics is
> finally
> about
> cities and
> what those
> cities are.
> in rome
> actors
> were not allowed
> to be
> politicians
> or to be part
> of the voting
> processes
> because
> Scipio Africanus
> ³the best man in Rome²
> believed that
> all actors
> were immoral
> because theatre
> was a Greek
> idea and
> Rome should
> not be corrupted
> by Greek ideas.
> i think that
> sometimes
> now
> politicians
> can be
> bigger than
> cities
> but i do
> not necessarily
> think that all
> politicians
> are artists.
> i do think that
> some politicans
> and (i
> know this)
> also some
> artists
> expect art to
> stand for politics.
>
> :) v.
>
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