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[claudia westermann]

>in 1982 Joseph Beuys recorded a song with the band BAP called:
>"Sonne statt Reagan" probably one of the few times he made
>he came into touch with the real world

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>http://www.bap-fan.de/bap-sonnestattreagan.html
>
>*btw think beuys was of immense value for 20th art
>
>
>ppppllllllllll



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>valentina culpa wrote:
>>
>>                         i read today
>>                              josef
>>                               beuys
>>                                in interview
>>                                 with writer
>>                                  " writing as sculpture "
>>                                         a book in a
>>                                       bookshop.
>>                                      so
>>                                beuys answers
>>                           some question
>>                            i do not know
>>                                  what the question
>>                                       was
>>                          and i paraphrase
>>                                from
>>                              my 20
>>                             seconds
>>                               with
>>                         this page:
>>                       ' I do not
>>                              believe that
>>                                   Europe needs
>>                                    a European Government.
>>                                      I do not
>>                                       think that a European
>>                                      government
>>                                     is a good idea.
>>                                  At best it would be
>>                               only a copy
>>                           of the
>>                         American government
>>                              and I do not
>>                           believe that the
>>                         American federal
>>                           system works.
>>                                I do not believe
>>                                   that government is
>>                                      a good thing
>>                             because government
>>                             is about control
>>                                and not
>>                            about freedom.
>>                           Government tells
>>                          people what
>  >                      to do. I do not
>  >                    think this is
>  >                  a good thing.'
>  >                           also
>  >                           'i asked
>  >                               Andy Warhol
>>                                   who he thought were
>>                                            the best artists
>>                                           today
>>                                     and he said
>>                                    'somebody big'
>>                              and i asked him
>>                                       more
>>                                     and he said
>>                                 he thought
>>                                'all workers
>>                             are artists'
>>                              and
>>                          you know
>>                             I think that
>>                                I think that
>>                            too.'
>>                            and there was something
>>                      else
>>                       about Europe
>>                        being complicated
>>                          about how you
>>                             need to negotiate
>>                                 between all the
>>                                different
>>                            countries to
>>                      get any agreement on
>>                   any European action
>>                            and somehow this
>>                              also was
>>                               a good thing.
>>                              i
>>                    think only
>>                  that
>>              new amsterdam
>>             new york
>  >             new anywhere
>>             are
>>             places.
>>              you know
>>                 politics is a
>>                   career
>>                     formed out
>>                        of drinking
>>                           and eating
>>                             together.
>>                       politics is
>>                  finally
>>                 about
>>             cities and
>>             what those
>>               cities are.
>>               in rome
>>                actors
>>                 were not allowed
>>                to be
>>               politicians
>>              or to be part
>>            of the voting
>>               processes
>>                   because
>>                    Scipio Africanus
>>                       "the best man in Rome"
>>                          believed that
>>                             all actors
>>                              were immoral
>>                               because theatre
>>                             was a Greek
>>                           idea and
>>                        Rome should
>>                      not be corrupted
>>                by Greek ideas.
>>               i think that
>>            sometimes
>>           now
>>         politicians
>>               can be
>>                  bigger than
>>                     cities
>>                       but i do
>>                        not necessarily
>>                          think that all
>>                            politicians
>>                              are artists.
>>                               i do think that
>>                             some politicans
>>                            and (i
>>                         know this)
>>                      also some
>>                     artists
>>                   expect art to
>>                 stand for politics.
>>
>  > :) v.

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just think it might be not too bad if more people
had an air plane crash and survived it

hm ... and
Warhol's idea I thought very convincing ... ) after watching 8 hours 'sleep'