[syndicate] \\ komunizm vs kapitalizm vs juzt 4 u

[Dmytri Kleiner]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:20:44 -0500, 0f0003 | maschinenkunst
<n2o at ggttctttat.com> wrote:

>  >thus you can contribute nothing to
>  > such a discussion except juvenile disdain, which proves nothing
> but your
> lack of emotional maturity.

> Very diplomatic.Tell me that to my face
> and you'll experience some very nice + fluffly balkan diplomacy.

Not sure if this is threat, which is an odd way to prove your emotional
maturity, but I would be happy to discuss political economy in person,
things always sound harsher in email and politics goes down nicely with a
beer. If/when you are in Berlin, please join me for a drink, I suspect we
would get along better in a personal conversation then in a written debate.


> In the interim here's the deal -- Change ur f.tone or move on.

I assure you that when you start making tangible, coherent arguments I will
respond to them with seriousness. However, if you are concerned about tone,
please reflect on the fact that your entire argument is built upon
incredulous disdain for "BS" and "super cool pop.tart artists," mixed with
allusions to "sacredness" and kin-communal/commons-based modes and Romanian
villages. You have not once engaged with the theories and practices of
Telekommunisten/venture communism except to introduce equivocation
regarding the terminology of classical and socialist economics.

If you want to response meaningfully, try to bear in mind the main point of
our discussion; that the new relationships I describe in the text you
responded to are economic ones, meaning they are based on the division of
incomes resulting from factor prices, that these incomes are the basis of
class stratification/reproduction, and that the resulting class structure
forms the social superstructure, including the legal, cultural and economic
make up of society.

Cheers.


-- 
Dmytri Kleiner
editing text files since 1981

http://www.telekommunisten.net