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[guibertc]

So you have to read, Fred, what I say it is not from my own thought only, it
is from a collective and common critical thought of modern theory and modern
history specially of avant-gardes history.


On 16/11/05 13:17, "fmadre at free.fr" <fmadre at free.fr> probably wrote:

> Aliette, I do not understand what you are shaking a stick at really, i
> don't see
> the relationship between avant-gardism and programming (or hacking if
> you prefer
> to use novlang) let me just tell you that I have been a programmer for
> more than
> 30 years, beginning with assembly code, then basic, COBOL, FORTAN, APL, you
> wanna see my LISP diploma ? it's somewhere in a drawer at home, I wrote my
> first client-server application in 1992 it was based on Sybase SqlServer and I
> ported that application to Oracle, now for my personal amusement I like to
> design relational databases and I have programmed several PHP/MySQL
> applications, the last one of those I will release next week.
> 
>> At first: the transparence of modernity it is the transparence of technics
> 
> fuck Modernity, it's just an empty word.
> 
>> Are you better than myself able to developpe, to program digitally - to hack
>> sources as new progressive dispositives of the technics you pretend to be
>> representing among others artists  of this field of universal media?
> 
> yes, I am. next time ask a more challenging question, thanks.
> 
>> but it is not your cup of tea -you told me.
> 
> It does not amuse me so much these days because of those 30 years of
> dreaming at
> night of constants and variables, of literally seeing code get alive in
> my head
> with values being computed and transferred from accumulator A to
> accumulator A,
> getting stuck in a sub-program, in an endless loop or whatnot, so yeah, the
> effect kinda wears off but I am fundamentally a programmer.
> 
>> So could be you are a fake artist in your own vision of avant-garde. As I
>> think you are not fake in your self practice to represent what you use and
>> do as message: because my own vision right nowis not exclusive of the way
>> but yours.
> 
> well, no.
> 
> f.
> 
> 
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