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Alan Sondheim sondheim at panix.com
Sat May 28 15:50:57 CEST 2005




this is very moving, woke up here in omaha this morning miserably 
depressed, machinations, thinking, old men should be killed, i should
be killed, there's no hope for us, we're already gone, make way for
the young, they have new smart bright ideas

and this somehow resonated and / with the dialog

my brother and sister couldn't care less

- alan


On Sat, 28 May 2005, noemata at kunst.no wrote:

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> i get depressed (what's new)
> my mother wants my company (just because you don't want to be alone)
> obviously you know i'm not very social (so it's just for you)
> it's just stealing time
> i'm sorry, it's not for me
> sorry sorry sorry
> yes you brought me up but now i don't care to keep you company
> how unfair
> i'm sorry, time doesn't go backwards, it's all one way
> it's very unfair
> cause wants effect's company
> it's logical not logical
> time goes by
> without logic, no time
> language is within logic (common sense)
> so you say
> backwards in time
> is logic reversible or not?
> the implication is backwards
> i'm not watching another european song contest
> if a then b (there's an analytic and synthetic domain)
> stealing time (analytic)
> transferring guilt (synthetic)
> i'm sorry, it's the proposition
> there are no causes and effects (really?)
> time goes by
> just effects
> causes are backworded (logic, language, time, theft, guilt)
> what would i be without you? (who's asking?)
> if it is it is, if it isn't it isn't (not even that)
> ask my brother instead (he's neither dead nor alive)
> use his logic when talking (he's neither cause nor effect)
> is he or isn't he?
> and how are we different?
> i'm sorry, and when i do i feel cheated (guilt is logically transferred)
> but there are no causes, only effects
> and guilt, in its turn and turning, producing resent (effect, not cause)
> cause is transferred, while effect is produced (logical)
> effect is transferred, while cause is produced (really?)
> so i'm left with resent writing
> the effect of the cause of the effect
> does this mean i was not born?
> yes, i wasn't born
> -how can you say that?
> it follows
> -how can it follow that it doesn't follow?
> yes, how can it? how can it follow?
> -you tell me
> if i tell you it follows it follows
> -then it follows?
> if
> -so the if follows?
> exactly, if if then then
> -and where does this leave you?
> i'm not leaving
> -but surely you will die?
> it doesn't follow
> -then what follows?
> everything follows
> -what does it mean?
> i don't know, choose mean and you get mean
> -meaning what?
> meaning i'll lead and you follow
> -but i want to lead myself
> then lead yourself, but you were asking for leads, and then you followed
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