[syndicate] FW: Dernière minute - Urgent : Les Pays-Bas rejettent le traité constitutionnel européen

[ohnoqt at yahoo.com]

ohhh no,don't take it so personally, baby ;)


fmadre at free.fr wrote:
I did not vote for le pen and now I voted no
(and I did not vote for Chirac either: I did not vote because the choice was
impossible, there is no difference between le pen and chirac and I hate them
both)

ok, find somehting else now that this is disproved

> Somebody once said: Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is
> suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
> Funny...not a word in those pools about the reason of "dissatisfaction with
> the
> current economic and social situation in France " (52%) - no question about
> the immigrants in France, about 'polish-invaders', not a word about the
> fact that the same insatisfied 'no' majority voted proudly from the same
> reason for LePen ("dissatisfaction with the current economic and social
> situation in France ") 3 yrs ago.
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> Peter Luining wrote:ohnoqt at yahoo.com wrote:
> > How do you explain the fact that large majority of people who voted as you
> did (no), are very fond of populist, raciste and conservative ideas ?
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> Polls after the French vote show that this explanation is
> wildly incorrect:
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> http://www.humanite.fr/journal/2005-05-31/2005-05-31-635521
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> Key paragraph:
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> According to SOFRES [a polling institution], the "no" voters made
> their decision because "this treaty will exacerbate unemployment in
> France" (46%), "to show they're fed up with the current situation"
> (40%), "a 'no' vote will make it possible to renegotiate the treaty"
> (35%), "this treaty is too neoliberal" (34%), "this treaty is
> particularly difficult to understand (34%), "Europe threatens France's
> identity" (19%) or "because of Turkey" (18%). Among these reasons,
> issues of social protection and opposition to neoliberalism are
> clearly far ahead of xenophobic tendencies and worries about national
> sovereignty. This is confirmed by the IPSOS poll, according to which
> the three main reasons for the "no" vote are dissatisfaction with the
> current economic and social situation in France (52%), the view that
> the proposed treaty is "too neoliberal" (40%) and confidence in being
> able to get a better constitution after a renegotiation (39%). One
> last proof that at the heart of the "no" vote is the desire for
> another sort of Europe: according to most of the polling institutions,
> a very large majority of "no" voters (64% according to CSA) want
> France to ask for a new European constitution to be written.
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> Somebody once said: Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is
> suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
> Funny...not a word in those pools about the reason of "dissatisfaction with
> the
> current economic and social situation in France " (52%) - no question about
> the immigrants in France, about 'polish-invaders', not a word about the
> fact that the same insatisfied no majority voted proudly from the same reason
> for LePen ("dissatisfaction with the current economic and social situation in
> France ") 3 yrs ago.
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