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[integer at www.god-emil.dk]

Being branded the worst auto in the .US is a compliment.
.US has the worst autos. the worst design everything. 

For your info, Ferrari is considered a terrible auto in the .US
I drive one, I know why, and I know Americans are simply stupid.
And yes, classic Alfa Romeo's are better than Ferrari's. 
Naturally 0 Alfa's in .US

Ivo - you are perfect Jankee imbecile.
Pleased you exited ost.eu - stay where you are.





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>Subject: [syndicate] Re: Yugo is NOT coming back to the US
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>True. In the Balkans still the prevailing mentality is to wish your 
>neighbor's cow is dead, rather than approaching the neighbor and 
>doing business with him. Sad. Obviously, Croatian media delighted in 
>the failure of Yugo. And yes, I was in Zagreb last summer, there are 
>plenty of Yugos on the streets.
>
>It is also correct that the quality of Yugo cars fell sharply due to 
>the quarells within former Yugoslavia. The principal culprit was 
>Serbia's decision in 1986 to boycott Slovenian products. That forced 
>Zastava Kragujevac to rely for the engine blocks on lower quality 
>steel from Serbias Smederevo steel mills - instead of from Slovenian 
>Jesenice steel mills. Using the Slovenian steel, Yugo designers were 
>able to make engine blocks thiner and lighter, than comparable 
>Russian car models had. However, the factory continued with the same 
>design, even after they switched to Serbian steel - the results were 
>ugly: engine blocks melted, cracked, etc.
>
>Also correct - except for German and Swedish cars, the US buyer 
>traditionally does not trust European car makers: there are not many 
>French, Italian, or British cars on American roads. Fiat is thought 
>to be not much better than Yugo (Zastava models are offshots of Fiat 
>models), yet at a far higher price.
>
>As for the ZMW-BMW story - if it is not a hoax coined by the Croatian 
>media - it is a sorry trend in the 21st century industry. Of course 
>that ZMW could not pose any threat to BMW. They occupy a completely 
>different niche of the car market. And truly - this is not a 
>copyright or trademark infringement: the names are just similar, not 
>identical. But there are more and more examples like that - there is 
>a guy that adopted Linux operating system to have more point-and-
>click look and feel and called it Lindows - Microsoft is suing him 
>now over the name that is too similar to Windows. Corporate 
>legislation is biased to protect those who already established strong 
>positions in the industry against the upstarts. The result is a world 
>where power and wealth is more densely concentyrated in less hands, 
>kind of like the world looked like on the eve of the First World War. 
>The conclusions are obvious.
>
>ivo
>
>On 12 Feb 2004 at 13:24, melentie wrote:
>
>Hola everyone,
>>
>>n 2002 James Bricklin (the man who brought both Yugo and Hyundai cars
>>to the US) decided to bring re-made Yugo back to the US. Zastava
>>weapons factory in Kragujevac, Serbia, which subdivision makes Yugo
>>cars, was recovered from the damage it suffered during the 1999 NATO
>>bombing, and Yugos were back in production. Bricklin wanted a joint
>>venture company and a flashy new name for Yugo in America: ZMW
>>(Zastava Motor Works). However, apparently in 2003, BMW (Bayrische
>>Motor Werke) threatened to sue, if Yugos were to be marketed under
>>that name.
>
>This is ridiculuos. Firstly, if this logic is followed then on a more
>general level heaps of companies could sue their competition for
>having a similar name ! Secondly, what threat would ZMW possibly pose
>to BMW !? I don't get this.
>
>>On top of that, there were some communication problems
>>between Zastava and Bricklin, so he shelved the idea of returning
>>Yugo's to America. This might have been a sound business decision,
>>given that the last month poll by Forbes magazine, AGAIN declared
>>Yugo the worst car ever driven in the US by popular vote.
>
>Hey, at least the public remembers the brand! Some PR people would
>argue that this is necessarily not a bad thing. Anyway, Yugo might
>have been good or bad, but fact is that there are many bigger car
>companies who never made it to the American market. And I am not even
>talking about East European car companies but about West European.
>FIAT would be one of them, if I remeber well.
>
>In fact the achievement wasn't small at all. The car eventhough
>assembled and produced in Kragujevac, Serbia had suppliers for the
>different parts from all around ex-Yugoslavia. Actually, the quality
>of the car fell drastically, once the war started and these supplier
>links were being cut. This is also true for the market. Once the war
>broke the company couldn't sell any more to the entire territory of
>ex-Yu.
>
>>So, for the time being, the only Yugo in America is going to be
>>Raccoon's Cyber-
>>Yugo....http://balkansnet.org/cyberyugo.html
>
>Good project, right?
>
>
>>Articles in Croatian:
>>http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=185458
>>http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=131324
>
>  What can one say? The articles certanly do not paint a rosy image
>nor prospects for Zastava. It looks as if the idea that everything
>coming from Serbia is bad, still seems to be haunting the Croatian
>media.  (On the other hand if one drives down the Croatian streets,
>one might find quite many Yugos still in use.)
>
>The Balkan drama goes on.
>
>When will people learn that these kind of attitudes only empoverish
>the region? You cannot have a prosperous Croatia, or Serbia, or
>Macedonia, or whatever once the entire region is not prosperous! You
>cannot have a safe country, once all of the region is not safe.
>
>And you certainly cannot develop a prosperous region by hoping that
>your neighbour fails! It is a huge network, damn it!
>
>Melentie