[syndicate] Two portraits of G. Soros
human being
human at electronetwork.org
Tue Jun 10 04:49:10 CEST 2003
this explains quite a bit. have been befuddled by
George Soros recent vitriolic statement regarding
US monetary policy (strong dollar) because, as an
impartial (one would assume) currency speculator,
he would be making a lot of money knowing the
advanced playout of the moves, yet was publicly
remanding the US monetary policy.
also, from the USA, growing up here in the 1970s
there was still some (tangible) fear of the USSR,
and on television were always photos of breadlines
and other symbols of the 'iron curtain' societies. it
was always assumed from my naive view that they
fell from within, for the most part, to adapt to change,
even if prodded and shaped to do so, in retrospect.
yet, it makes me wonder if living in a post-totalitarian
society is different or worse, or if some things are of
a better way, but then chronic problems brought with
the changes, inside and outside, begin facing each-
other. else, it is wondered without capital if these same
societies would have also transformed and be online,
say, or be outside. this is not an opinion, though it is
wondered as it seems defending the past (anywhere)
as better or something superior (in a totalitarian system
say, with lots of pre-existing corruption, of a different
kind) would be without integration with global states.
also, in the USA it seems there is also a goal of not-
thinking, or keeping people in a state of not-having-
to-think, just be, just live, just consume to produce,
etc. in a way, it is wondered if, in another state that
has been manipulated so openly (but covertly) say,
has something in common with the more closed,
and overt redefining of another country like Iraq by
an easy to pinpoint US force, which itself may not
represent the populace but one of many structures,
at which level there is no general agreement about
what to do, solutions, it seems (if the UN is example).
makes it wondered if some/many countries feel some-
thing in common with Iraq in a way, in some way. would
never have considered this, but makes it seem that there
are parallels. odd thing is, there are probably more people
in those countries who might be able to critique this than
in the USA, the way things are, you'll never work again
if you actually critique the system. it will punish people.
also, when in SF shortly interacted with the SeaChange
Soros initiative, sounded 'good' in that it had ideas and
sounded interesting (working for social, public goals),
yet it was very hollow upon inspection, and critique of
this institution has brought many comments since, as
something one should really not be doing. in any case,
it is of note when that project seemed to disappear for
a bit, and then the meme shows up in Beck's album,
not a musician i listen to, but it made me wonder, hey,
wonder if such a thing could become a 'hit' and then
'exported' as a subliminal brand for that same idea,
as one way to move ideology is through music nets.
this last paragraph may be meaningless, but it is
included just because it is present here but in a
different way, maybe this is where the producers
work on this system, it does not seem all bad either,
in that it is one of the few organizations proposing
a value for the social aspect of experience, and it
does not seem based on being monolithic. would
it be preferable to never have the changes of the
last 2 decades in eastern europe, without global
capital, and with a wall up around the USSR, it
makes it seem that is part of the logic. and does
it have a total negative force, or is it who/how the
local is controlled and by who, like a puppet theatre.
it would seem that in Russia, if reports are accurate,
there is some rollback to earlier policies, is this to
be celebrated if it is to make Russia independent
from its selling off of society by outsiders, and to
keep its earlier system (know little about this, and
issue of oligarchs and the state control, but assume
it still exists, whether public or private, global/local).
is there any chance, and I have no affiliation with
Soros (as far as a know, though he may have a
US citizenship) -- that if Soros lives both East EU
and in the US, that that trip is a type of bridge on
which people can travel back and forth, inter-
culturally, even if it has some very negative aspects
but that along with those changes, there are likely
millions more from Eastern Europe who are also
bringing these cultures and ideas to the US (one
of my admired teachers emigrated from Poland)
and families in my gradeschool (and friends) were
from Poland, say, during the same events talked
about, and other places over time. makes it also
wondered if the US may be closer to Eastern
Europe than Western Europe in terms of cultural
integration, as there are 'Russian areas' in town,
just like Italian, Irish, Swedish, used to be earlier
as whole communities, having emigrated. is the
East also relevant in the U.S.? to me it is, that is
why it interests, it is working with people and to
hear about massacres in Albania in the 1980s,
from relatives, and such.
plus, it is speculated if there may be a 'cold-war'
aspect of 'integration' between the US & Russia,
etc, in that now there are Russian rock bands,
museums, here, fashions (most beautiful) and
something that brings this 'eastness' of the west
and the 'westness' of the east in relation (that is
a naive guess, but an attempt to describe what
fascinates, that is hard to accept as all bad, tho
maybe it is worse than better in ways, maybe it
might be better than worse for only a few, it sucks
for most, here and there, it would be guessed, as
the system is severely dysfunctional, and cannot
grow out of its dysfunction, only pull more fuel
into the fire, to try to keep it burning a bit longer.
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