[syndicate] too much deviance...

hoord'hur hoordhur at yahoo.fr
Mon Jun 9 09:10:43 CEST 2003


fissa on dirait du bosma, déboutonne toi un peu anna,
sois + cool



 --- anna balint <epistolaris at freemail.hu> a écrit : >

> 2003.06.07. 17:29:10, <hub at x-arn.org> wrote:
> 
> >hello,
> >
> >is it a french mailing-list ?
> >
> >> Mon Français s'améliorera.
> >
> >
> >best,
> >HUB/ARN
> >
> 
> Dear Subscriber,
> 
> Syndicate is a list mainly English, but postings
> in other European languages are also possible,
> not just French, German, but all the other
> languages,
> even if we are able sometimes to abstract only
> a small part of the information.
> We also like code-language, ASCII-art, those many
> mails
> that explore scripts, software-like commands,
> or develop an individual language.
> 
> 
> In the last two years the list suceeded to regulate
> itself
> without moderation. Despite so much chaos, we are
> all very 
> much against moderation! 
> We also gave up attempts to regulate NN since
> longtime...
> not that for instance me, i would agree with
> anything she
> writes, but i got convinced that it would be
> useless.
> 
> 
> However, in order to try to balance the
> noise-content proportion 
> maybe it is not useless to remind about the list's
> goal, 
> that should be reflected to a *certain degree* in
> the list's 
> information policy as well.
> 
> - Syndicate is meant to circulate announcements
> related
> to new media art, new media culture, but we also
> expect 
> any information from parts of Europe where media
> arts are 
> still a marginal, emerging art form 
> - the list is meant to spread media criticism. We
> keep in 
> mind that specially in East Europe, where much of
> the 
> audience resides, commercial culture, and also wild 
> media capitalism gains much faster ground than media
> criticism 
> and visual culture. It is not widely known perhaps, 
> that all alternative information is very valuable in
> East European 
> countries, for instance in Russia, where journalists
> get 
> killed for political reasons in presently as well.  
> - because syndicate is a non-mainstream, alternative
> channel 
> of information, also reflections, reports about
> social or 
> political situation are also welcome on the list, 
> specially in these times, where the most alarming
> informations 
> come from the United States, and not only. East
> Europeans are 
> the people who know exactly what a totalitarian
> country means, 
> and they could share their experiences and
> sensitivity about 
> total control, just as Ivo Skoric does when he
> crosspossts 
> to syndicate his mails sent to Thomas Keenan, one of
> the most 
> appreciated media experts involved in the Balkan war
> as well. But also ironic political comments based on
> the critical
> methods of the alternative culture, such as Marc
> Garret's texts
> are welcome.
> - syndicate is meant to circulate and spread net
> art, or whatever
> is left of that once avant-garde art form, that
> explores and experiences 
> with the internet as a medium, here including also
> spam art, errors,
> wrong interfaces as well (these simulations of the
> bad quality for 
> instance look so funny in East Europe where people
> bear the invasion
> of *real* bad quality) 
> - we encourage any critical reflection about net art
> and new media
> art in general, here including reports about events,
> festivals,
> or analyses about individual artists, works or a
> just a phenomena
> of the net
> - since the whole history of net art till present
> flourished
> and  still goes on practically without serious
> attempts to connect 
> net art to the other art forms, these kind of
> analyses are more
> than welcome also
> 
> for futher information look up the list info file,
> at 
> http://anart.no/sympa/arc/syndicate
> 
> But the list is not about
> 'my-life-as-a-series-of-opening',
> my social or sexual life, documented in press-cuts,
> specially 
> if it is not a terribly interesting opening, and it
> is not 
> about one line replies, private comments that could
> be sent 
> off-list, nor about 'i have the idea to write about
> my neighbour'.
> The list does not stand for the epigons of Netochka
> Nezvanova, 
> or those of Frederic Madre, who unfortunately do not
> all excell 
> in the content-level of their postings.
> 
> When coming up with redundant, trashy or
> self-centered information,  
> or you just pursue someone with your anger or your
> admiration, 
> consider please also the price of connectivity and
> download 
> of the mails, that can be very high in East Europe.
> Give a thought also to the fact that i am willing
> to keep the syndicate archives safe, so that your
> grand-children
> might also have the chance to see for instance the
> way you took 
> a picture about a drunk girl and made the picture
> available on 
> the net.
> 
> It worths maybe to appriciate also that so much
> noise could make 
> ultimately impossible meaningful exchange and
> interaction. Think 
> also to the subscribers who don't have the option of
> a moderated
> version of the list, neither we can offer presently
> a software 
> that would insulate these mails, and would keep
> these mails visible 
> at the same time for the sake of the complete
> information.
> 
> If you need terribly to post your diary or real-time
> memoires
> on the syndicate list, please at least consider
> compressing your
> daily data in one mail, or better send a one month's
> dose in 
> one mail, or put it on the web, and send the link
> once in a while.
> In some cases once in a year would be also be
> enough.
> I don't mean this *once in a months* for the
> net.poetry, 
> specially if it comes together with a critical
> presentation. 
> For the delicate delimitation of net art and
> non-art, we are lucky
> enough to have here one of the best net critics on
> the scene...
> Frederic, I trust you.
> Once we agreed also that mails reflecting one's
> emotional life,
> are marked in the subject with [ot], we could
> introduce this
> distinction again.
> 
> It is very rare that we get any feedback about the
> list itself,
> we do not receive not even objections. It would be
> useful sometimes 
> that you, Subsriber, voice your opinion. Floods of
> superfluous 
> informations occur also when passivity dominates.
> Say, if you
> disagree with me, or just if you have any suggestion
> about 
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