[syndicate] too much deviance...

TH. thth at noos.fr
Sun Jun 8 23:49:12 CEST 2003


too much deviance ?
too much alliance.

TH

----- Original Message -----
From: "anna balint" <epistolaris at freemail.hu>
To: <syndicate at anart.no>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:43 PM
Subject: [syndicate] too much deviance...


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> 2003.06.07. 17:29:10, <hub at x-arn.org> wrote:
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> >hello,
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> >is it a french mailing-list ?
> >
> >> Mon Français s'améliorera.
> >
> >
> >best,
> >HUB/ARN
> >
>
> Dear Subscriber,
>
> Syndicate is a list mainly English, but postings
> in other European languages are also possible,
> not just French, German, but all the other languages,
> even if we are able sometimes to abstract only
> a small part of the information.
> We also like code-language, ASCII-art, those many mails
> that explore scripts, software-like commands,
> or develop an individual language.
>
>
> In the last two years the list suceeded to regulate itself
> without moderation. Despite so much chaos, we are all very
> much against moderation!
> We also gave up attempts to regulate NN since longtime...
> not that for instance me, i would agree with anything she
> writes, but i got convinced that it would be useless.
>
>
> However, in order to try to balance the noise-content proportion
> maybe it is not useless to remind about the list's goal,
> that should be reflected to a *certain degree* in the list's
> information policy as well.
>
> - Syndicate is meant to circulate announcements related
> to new media art, new media culture, but we also expect
> any information from parts of Europe where media arts are
> still a marginal, emerging art form
> - the list is meant to spread media criticism. We keep in
> mind that specially in East Europe, where much of the
> audience resides, commercial culture, and also wild
> media capitalism gains much faster ground than media criticism
> and visual culture. It is not widely known perhaps,
> that all alternative information is very valuable in East European
> countries, for instance in Russia, where journalists get
> killed for political reasons in presently as well.
> - because syndicate is a non-mainstream, alternative channel
> of information, also reflections, reports about social or
> political situation are also welcome on the list,
> specially in these times, where the most alarming informations
> come from the United States, and not only. East Europeans are
> the people who know exactly what a totalitarian country means,
> and they could share their experiences and sensitivity about
> total control, just as Ivo Skoric does when he crosspossts
> to syndicate his mails sent to Thomas Keenan, one of the most
> appreciated media experts involved in the Balkan war
> as well. But also ironic political comments based on the critical
> methods of the alternative culture, such as Marc Garret's texts
> are welcome.
> - syndicate is meant to circulate and spread net art, or whatever
> is left of that once avant-garde art form, that explores and experiences
> with the internet as a medium, here including also spam art, errors,
> wrong interfaces as well (these simulations of the bad quality for
> instance look so funny in East Europe where people bear the invasion
> of *real* bad quality)
> - we encourage any critical reflection about net art and new media
> art in general, here including reports about events, festivals,
> or analyses about individual artists, works or a just a phenomena
> of the net
> - since the whole history of net art till present flourished
> and  still goes on practically without serious attempts to connect
> net art to the other art forms, these kind of analyses are more
> than welcome also
>
> for futher information look up the list info file, at
> http://anart.no/sympa/arc/syndicate
>
> But the list is not about 'my-life-as-a-series-of-opening',
> my social or sexual life, documented in press-cuts, specially
> if it is not a terribly interesting opening, and it is not
> about one line replies, private comments that could be sent
> off-list, nor about 'i have the idea to write about my neighbour'.
> The list does not stand for the epigons of Netochka Nezvanova,
> or those of Frederic Madre, who unfortunately do not all excell
> in the content-level of their postings.
>
> When coming up with redundant, trashy or self-centered information,
> or you just pursue someone with your anger or your admiration,
> consider please also the price of connectivity and download
> of the mails, that can be very high in East Europe.
> Give a thought also to the fact that i am willing
> to keep the syndicate archives safe, so that your grand-children
> might also have the chance to see for instance the way you took
> a picture about a drunk girl and made the picture available on
> the net.
>
> It worths maybe to appriciate also that so much noise could make
> ultimately impossible meaningful exchange and interaction. Think
> also to the subscribers who don't have the option of a moderated
> version of the list, neither we can offer presently a software
> that would insulate these mails, and would keep these mails visible
> at the same time for the sake of the complete information.
>
> If you need terribly to post your diary or real-time memoires
> on the syndicate list, please at least consider compressing your
> daily data in one mail, or better send a one month's dose in
> one mail, or put it on the web, and send the link once in a while.
> In some cases once in a year would be also be enough.
> I don't mean this *once in a months* for the net.poetry,
> specially if it comes together with a critical presentation.
> For the delicate delimitation of net art and non-art, we are lucky
> enough to have here one of the best net critics on the scene...
> Frederic, I trust you.
> Once we agreed also that mails reflecting one's emotional life,
> are marked in the subject with [ot], we could introduce this
> distinction again.
>
> It is very rare that we get any feedback about the list itself,
> we do not receive not even objections. It would be useful sometimes
> that you, Subsriber, voice your opinion. Floods of superfluous
> informations occur also when passivity dominates. Say, if you
> disagree with me, or just if you have any suggestion about
> administration.
> If the quality of the list, the discussion goes under a decent level
> I might also think - on the 'we are equal' basis - about a 'temporary
> moderation' art project, just as some of you think that 'many mail'
> is art.
>
> greetings,
> Anna Balint
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