[syndicate] Re: too much deviance...

Tue Jun 10 14:50:19 CEST 2003

> too much deviance ?
> too much alliance.
> 
> TH

Je dois être d'accord avec mon ami français.

On l'identifie universellement que les Français 
ont la meilleure compréhension des 'normes' et 
de la 'déviance'.  Il y a certainement l'espace 
dans L'Metaversite pour un cours d'initiation 
de base. 

Européens de l'est confondent souvent la 
déviance avec la cruauté. C'est une erreur 
à corriger. 

Anna, et amis du Syndicate, vous êtes au 
courant de la littérature...?

Lachlan

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> > 2003.06.07. 17:29:10, <hub at x-arn.org> wrote:
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> > >hello,
> > >
> > >is it a french mailing-list ?
> > >
> > >> Mon Français s'améliorera.
> > >
> > >
> > >best,
> > >HUB/ARN
> > >
> >
> > Dear Subscriber,
> >
> > Syndicate is a list mainly English, but postings
> > in other European languages are also possible,
> > not just French, German, but all the other languages,
> > even if we are able sometimes to abstract only
> > a small part of the information.
> > We also like code-language, ASCII-art, those many mails
> > that explore scripts, software-like commands,
> > or develop an individual language.
> >
> >
> > In the last two years the list suceeded to regulate itself
> > without moderation. Despite so much chaos, we are all very
> > much against moderation!
> > We also gave up attempts to regulate NN since longtime...
> > not that for instance me, i would agree with anything she
> > writes, but i got convinced that it would be useless.
> >
> >
> > However, in order to try to balance the noise-content proportion
> > maybe it is not useless to remind about the list's goal,
> > that should be reflected to a *certain degree* in the list's
> > information policy as well.
> >
> > - Syndicate is meant to circulate announcements related
> > to new media art, new media culture, but we also expect
> > any information from parts of Europe where media arts are
> > still a marginal, emerging art form
> > - the list is meant to spread media criticism. We keep in
> > mind that specially in East Europe, where much of the
> > audience resides, commercial culture, and also wild
> > media capitalism gains much faster ground than media criticism
> > and visual culture. It is not widely known perhaps,
> > that all alternative information is very valuable in East European
> > countries, for instance in Russia, where journalists get
> > killed for political reasons in presently as well.
> > - because syndicate is a non-mainstream, alternative channel
> > of information, also reflections, reports about social or
> > political situation are also welcome on the list,
> > specially in these times, where the most alarming informations
> > come from the United States, and not only. East Europeans are
> > the people who know exactly what a totalitarian country means,
> > and they could share their experiences and sensitivity about
> > total control, just as Ivo Skoric does when he crosspossts
> > to syndicate his mails sent to Thomas Keenan, one of the most
> > appreciated media experts involved in the Balkan war
> > as well. But also ironic political comments based on the critical
> > methods of the alternative culture, such as Marc Garret's texts
> > are welcome.
> > - syndicate is meant to circulate and spread net art, or whatever
> > is left of that once avant-garde art form, that explores and experiences
> > with the internet as a medium, here including also spam art, errors,
> > wrong interfaces as well (these simulations of the bad quality for
> > instance look so funny in East Europe where people bear the invasion
> > of *real* bad quality)
> > - we encourage any critical reflection about net art and new media
> > art in general, here including reports about events, festivals,
> > or analyses about individual artists, works or a just a phenomena
> > of the net
> > - since the whole history of net art till present flourished
> > and  still goes on practically without serious attempts to connect
> > net art to the other art forms, these kind of analyses are more
> > than welcome also
> >
> > for futher information look up the list info file, at
> > http://anart.no/sympa/arc/syndicate
> >
> > But the list is not about 'my-life-as-a-series-of-opening',
> > my social or sexual life, documented in press-cuts, specially
> > if it is not a terribly interesting opening, and it is not
> > about one line replies, private comments that could be sent
> > off-list, nor about 'i have the idea to write about my neighbour'.
> > The list does not stand for the epigons of Netochka Nezvanova,
> > or those of Frederic Madre, who unfortunately do not all excell
> > in the content-level of their postings.
> >
> > When coming up with redundant, trashy or self-centered information,
> > or you just pursue someone with your anger or your admiration,
> > consider please also the price of connectivity and download
> > of the mails, that can be very high in East Europe.
> > Give a thought also to the fact that i am willing
> > to keep the syndicate archives safe, so that your grand-children
> > might also have the chance to see for instance the way you took
> > a picture about a drunk girl and made the picture available on
> > the net.
> >
> > It worths maybe to appriciate also that so much noise could make
> > ultimately impossible meaningful exchange and interaction. Think
> > also to the subscribers who don't have the option of a moderated
> > version of the list, neither we can offer presently a software
> > that would insulate these mails, and would keep these mails visible
> > at the same time for the sake of the complete information.
> >
> > If you need terribly to post your diary or real-time memoires
> > on the syndicate list, please at least consider compressing your
> > daily data in one mail, or better send a one month's dose in
> > one mail, or put it on the web, and send the link once in a while.
> > In some cases once in a year would be also be enough.
> > I don't mean this *once in a months* for the net.poetry,
> > specially if it comes together with a critical presentation.
> > For the delicate delimitation of net art and non-art, we are lucky
> > enough to have here one of the best net critics on the scene...
> > Frederic, I trust you.
> > Once we agreed also that mails reflecting one's emotional life,
> > are marked in the subject with [ot], we could introduce this
> > distinction again.
> >
> > It is very rare that we get any feedback about the list itself,
> > we do not receive not even objections. It would be useful sometimes
> > that you, Subsriber, voice your opinion. Floods of superfluous
> > informations occur also when passivity dominates. Say, if you
> > disagree with me, or just if you have any suggestion about
> > administration.
> > If the quality of the list, the discussion goes under a decent level
> > I might also think - on the 'we are equal' basis - about a 'temporary
> > moderation' art project, just as some of you think that 'many mail'
> > is art.
> >
> > greetings,
> > Anna Balint
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