RHIZOME_RAW: Care2 E-Card from Rachel Greene

[andrei]

valery grancher wrote:

>Hereafter the new answer I'm getting from rachel greene? regarding the
>previous message I sent to mark regarding his statement in new langton art
>center in San Francisco "day jobs" exhibition where he's defining his art
>work as a social sculpture through the rhizome.org project ...
>
>here the link to it:
>http://www.newlangtonarts.org/view_event.php?category=Network&archive=&&even
>tId=35
>
>just regarding this:
>"Mark TribeProjects
>
>Day: Rhizome.org http://www.rhizome.org
>Night: Rhizome.org http://www.rhizome.org
>Mark Tribe's art work featured in this exhibition can be seen as performance
>as much as media art. Rhizome.org is an online community that Mark describes
>as "social sculpture" in the tradition of Bueys. Here, product is not as
>important as process, though it would be a disservice to abstract
>Rhizome.org to the level of a conceptual art prank when, in fact, it has had
>a very real effect on the social lives of many new media artists and offers
>many practical services. This close-knit integration of a conceptual social
>work combined, inextricably, with practical real-world services is exemplary
>of how new media artists are sometimes able to play and work in the same
>media. Since media is the built environment that we now live in full-time
>(as opposed to a weekend leisure destination), artists find it possible to
>move into the "main house" -- sometimes without anyone noticing them sneak
>in.
>
>-- Richard Rinehart"
>
>I asked:  if we answer by giving money to rhizome campaing who we are
>sponsorizing ?
>a non profit organization ? or a social sculpture by Mark Tribe ? ;-)))
>
>as answer I'm getting this kind of message first from mark? and then rachel
>?
>so this anwser may be clear i don't need to comment, for sure this is not a
>non profit organization answer regarding people who has already give money
>in previous year ...
>
>so it is not possible to make clear this point ... no comment
>just one question what would we think ? who are the real person behind these
>identities who are firing ?
>
>anyway enjoy yourself rachel? and mark?, this year you didn't convinced me
>to use my visa card on your website ! that's it
>
>anyway rachel if you're looking for job, don't worry you will find one in
>paris !
>
>So good luck
>
>the point I asked this question on one list and now I cann see this childish
>reaction spreaded out over four list !!! great !!!
>this is not me who's asking money and support, but before paying I used to
>know where this money is going and for what kind of use ...
>
>So I just have one advice for all sponsors, be prudent about the finality of
>this campaign : personnal promotion ? or real non profit organization ?
>
>anyway I guess this fake answer from fake rachel and fake mark should reveal
>something...
>
>I'm still waiting for the whole truth from the real Mark !!!!!
>
>Valéry Grancher
>  
>
i just can't understand this discussion... it is boring, anyway.

Anyway, rhizome.org is an intervention in reality, being "social 
sculpture" or a "real non profit organization", or whatever.

andrei

>+ the best is the enemy of the good
>-> post: list at rhizome.org
>-> questions: info at rhizome.org
>-> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
>-> give: http://rhizome.org/support
>+
>Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
>Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>.
>
>  
>


-- 
"First of all you can't be subversive without being subversive to yourself, that's very important. You miss something crucial if you think subversion means to have clearly defined enemies and act against them. The enemy always is always you, too and in the first place."

http://www.koreawebart.org/2001/0100101110101101org.html