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integer at www.god-emil.dk integer at www.god-emil.dk
Thu Sep 13 16:24:57 CEST 2001




`Bin Laden was funded and established by the US
government as part of the campaign against the Russians in Afganistan.  If
his group is responsible for the New York horror, what responsibility
should the CIA take for laying the groundwork of this?  Tough questions.
But the place where we need strong, intelligent and moderate leadership
rather than emotive lashing out`



`There is another systems view to take to Ken's concerns -- a military
parallel to C.P. Snow's "Two Cultures".
There is a Muslim culture of modernity, ready to engage in constructive
global events (e.g., Abdullah of Jordan).  They are prepared to specify their
interests, negotiate, and compromise.  This Muslim culture -- it's important
to note -- stretches back in history to Saladin and the great regimes (ca.
1000 AD) that displayed intellectual and scientific inquiry (gave us algebra
and, arguably, dynamical systems) and religious tolerance.
These figures supported negotiations at Camp David framed by President
Clinton.  They were prepared to demand and concede rationally.  They urgently
sought to force Arafat to make specific counter-demands and constructive
responses.  They wanted financial compensation for "losses: that could not be
otherwise resolved.
This was modernist and "civilized".  They sought to draw the Muslim world
back to the great scientific and technical traditions it established, to
tolerance, and to democratic processes.
There is another group which dominates political Palestinian decisions.
Encouraged by Iranian "conservatives" (check the official Iranian website),
they demand an end to "Western" values.  Their ostensible home is Afghanistan
-- who treat other religionists who evangelize as devils who should be
murdered.
So, this is a conflict similar to the Luddite/Whig resistance to liberal and
technical development in Europe in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.
The Taliban and Osama, the Iranian mullahs and Hezbullah oppose the process
of internationalization and modernity.
Those who insist on supporting Palestinian terror are dupes of the enemies of
open social and political systems.  Their sympathy for the underdog is
misplaced -- they are supporting the same pathological mythologizing of
"foreigners" that characterized the Third Reich`





  One critical aspect of a dynamical analysis has to be the  that American
  oligopoly undermines democratic movements around the world that would
  threaten its control over the world economy.  By being so controlling, it
  bottles up pressures for change and almost guarantees explosions such as we
  have experienced today.


I think that you are right, and that a principal aspect of our thinking is to improve 
the US international behavior. 


see Horgan's (The End of
Science) attack on Meyer (-Kress)











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