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[Frederic Madre]

At 21:09 09/10/2004, Joseph Gray wrote:
 >You are made of bull and other sorts of shit, reconfigured.  Do you like 
fresh veggies Mr. Madre?

nah, I like meat
my grandfather was a butcher
for a month or two he was in charge of meat distribution in the city of Paris
in 1945

>Yeah, well when I first heard the whole matter IS consciousness business 
>it did appear to be only one particular way of modelling the larger form.

sure it is
the difference with this one, I find, is that it does not put the emphasis 
on humans perception of what you call consciousness: the matter of humans 
is ultimately the same matter as that of
meat

>Maybe it is better to say that non-"ebullient" matter is more like a 
>voltaic cell.  There is potential, but until the circuit is connected 
>there is no transfer of energy.

you use words, you like the word "energy" and to you it means something
to some extent you made this up completely
energy might mean something totally different to someone else
energy might be a negative concept to some of us

>So why is it that one particular configuration of matter (the human) has 
>consciousness attached to it?

the squirrel has the same
attached to it
what do you mean ?

>  Or are you one of those people who will even deny ones own sense of being,?

no, I only deny that ones own sense of being could be a subject of amazement


>absolutely, one can only hope.

that is what I feared

 >gawd.

>>f.
>
>Jeez, don't take it so seriously DUDE.


actually I don't
I thought adieu was final
your matter is fighting over your consciousness

later,
f.