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[Joseph Gray]

Hello Netochka and others,

A wise woman (and no, not you NN) once said that consciousness IS the 
mechanism that forms, and IS, the whole of all being (ie. the 
universe).  Inextricably bound together, as is referred to below (in 
relation to the human).  The logical extension of this is that not only 
are humans conscious, but rather each and every definable particle, 
notion etc. has it's own being and hence self-awareness.  A human 
though has a separate consciousness from the individual cells of which 
it consists, and so do the mitochondria within them etc.  A question 
that arises is where does that barrier occur.  If there were no 
barriers ones conscious would immediately expand into the whole of 
being instantaneously, but, as posited below, the body-mind-spirit 
thingy is inextricably bound.

Now that we have superMice and mice with human ears grafted on them 
etc. we, as a species are beginning to come to a breaking point.  
Suppose, just suppose, that it becomes quite possible to drink some 
sort of genetic elixir and weeks, months, years later a nice set of 
wings forms on ones back.  Now, it seems that if the nervous system, 
blood vessels etc. are properly hooked up (and here is perhaps a key to 
the body/rest-of-the-world dichotomy) ones conscious would expand into 
these newly formed, and rather fine and feathery, wings.  One could 
control the wings, and not only that, but a nasty fall could break them 
sending pain messages to the brain and thus presenting the 
mind/body/spirit thingy with a great deal of pain (experience).  Not to 
suggest that the brain is the only seat of human consciousness, but 
rather that there is a convenient path way to follow for this example.

So, to one-up this,  doesn't it seem that there will eventually be a 
break through in how we expand our consciousness physically.  Humanity 
may come across an understanding of what it takes to present sensation 
directly to the conscious through "physical" manipulations.   Perhaps 
it would be possible that, as though some Animie nightmare came true, a 
person with some demonic zealous passion managed to convert the entire 
earths material structure into one organised being, at which it was the 
central node of consciousness.  Perhaps a disturbing thought, but only 
in relation to preservation and self-preservation.  This being would 
not only have sensations that are, for us lowly worms, completely 
unfathomable, but would also have states of consciousness that not only 
could we not fathom, but would present other states of being that it as 
well could not fathom, and thus opening up a playing field, that at 
this point, perhaps only Gaia knows.

The story is that Buddha (and others in other traditions) did expand 
it's conscious into that of all multiversal realities.  So perhaps 
there is something there also, who knows.

Well, on that note, I sincerely hope the best to all of you, and 
please: don't think about it too hard. ; )

Adieu,
-Joe



On Oct 6, 2004, at 7:59 AM, integer at www.god-emil.dk wrote:

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> Michael Eigen in his text, The Psychotic Core (1986), discussed the
> breakdown of psychotic patients as they mentally straightjacket
> themselves into roles in which they become either completely
> isolated from the world or else lose all sense of themselves as
> separate beings.  He points out that we are both separate from  the
> world and united to it; and we need to incorporate both experiences
> into a healthy POLITIKAL SYSTEM ... We exist separately from each 
> other,
> but we share the same "flesh."
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