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Betreff: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: THURSDAYS at ARGOS //Geert Lovink New: Media 
Arts at the Crossroads// 05.04


proper is your father's game [name]. you are right!
courtesy speak&spell

thank you.


Am 28.03.2007 um 16:41 schrieb Barry Smylie:

What is a proper discussion?  Is this?  Proper?

How about, "do it", "go for it", "make/do".

(end of discussion)



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sorry, but that question should initialize a yet necessary discussion
about those new media arts vampirettes. we are the workers.



Am 28.03.2007 um 13:23 schrieb Martin John Callanan:


Come on, There is enough junk without your inane comments. If you are
that
concerned, at least have a proper discussion.


Martin



On 28/3/07 13:47, "horrorkatze" <bonzo at signifikat.de> wrote:

>
> uhm, geert isn't dead? shit.
>
>
>
> Am 28.03.2007 um 11:42 schrieb <stoffel at argosarts.org>:
>
> THURSDAYS at ARGOS
> LECTURE
> 05.04.07 // 20:30
>
> Geert Lovink
> New Media Arts at the Crossroads
>
> The emerging new media arts genre is in a crisis. Not that 'new media'
> are on their way out. What we're talking about here is a 'luxury'
> problem: in what direction to grow futher. After an initial period in
> which time and again the question "what is new media" was raised, we
> have now moved to a second phase, in which large parts of the
> population have become familiar with multimedia, cell phones and the
> Internet. However, new media arts still operates in a self-referential
> ghetto, dominated by techno-fetishism. In the meanwhile, the world at
> large has moved from utopian promises about virtual reality and
> cyberspace to a culture of massive use. Taking this 'democratization'
> of new technologies in mind, what are the implications of this shift
> for the 'electronic arts' branch? Should new media artists and their
> (few) institutions seek collaboration and integration with the museum
> and gallery art? Should new media remain a seperate category, with its
> own festivals and ex!
> hibitions, or be integrated into the broader 'contemporary arts'? Or
> should we rather further institutionalize the new media discipline?
>
> Geert Lovink (NL/AUS) is a media theorist and activist, Internet critic
> and author of Dark Fiber, Uncanny Networks and My First Recession. He
> worked on various media projects in Eastern Europe and India. He is a
> member of the Adilkno collective and co-founder of Internet projects
> such as The Digital City, Nettime, Fibreculture and Incommunicado. He
> is founder and director of the Institute of Network Cultures, professor
> at Interactive Media (Hogeschool van Amsterdam) and associate professor
> at the Media & Culture department, University of Amsterdam. In
> 2005-2006 he was a fellow at the Berlin Institute for Advanced Study.
>
> followed by debate
>
>
>
>
>
> THURSDAYS at ARGOS
> 05.04 LECTURE - GEERT LOVINK NEW MEDIA ARTS AT THE CROSSROADS
> 19.04 CONCERT - TOSHIMARU NAKAMURA & NICHOLAS BUSSMANN / MARCUS
> SCHMICKLER & HAYDEN CHISHOLM
> 26.04 LECTURE - DANIEL ROSENBERG LINE AND TIME
> 03.05 LECTURE + SCREENING - HERMAN ASSELBERGHS & ROSI BRAIDOTTI IN
> THE FUTURE PERFECT
> 17.05 LECTURE - JON IPPOLITO & JOLINE BLAIS ART AFTER INSTITUTIONS
> 24.05 CONCERT - DISCODESAFINADO / MACHINEFABRIEK
>
> ARGOS, Centre for Art & Media
> Werfstraat 13, 1000 Brussel
> www.argosarts.org
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