AW: [syndicate] Trans.: [thingist] IAM SPEAKER SERIES: SarahRobbins, March 12, 2007

[clemos]

On 3/7/07, fmadre at free.fr <fmadre at free.fr> wrote:
> interesting, clemos
> but tell me how different that is from this here mailing list
> ain't we all friends in here ? haven't we been pretending we were friends ?
> perhaps, this is true, we have not used the word
> friend

the word is important.
like second *life*
hehe

> to illustrate your last point, do you have real life examples of your
> friendships being disturbed by online frienship ?

I have quite a lot of exemples of such distortions
but, obviously, I can tell these only to my friends
;)

+++++
clément

>
>
> > I guess I hate both SL and myspace just as much as I hate First Life
> > and its residents (realizing that they are actually the very same
> > persons!).
> >
> > Then as I told you, I prefer to meet them on myspace (which I can
> > close) or on SL (which I can close) than in FL (which I cannot so
> > easily close)
> > It looks like jokes, but the problem with Virtual Reality and ie with
> > the "Friends" relationships as introduced by Myspace is that it looks
> > as if users were willingly looking for that kind of post-modern
> > relationship where there are no rules, and you can be "Friends"
> > without actually engaging yourself in a strong relation (which would
> > imply solidarity, mutual help, duty, sacrifices,...), where you can
> > "zap" between persons.
> > This example perversion of the "Friend" word in myspace really
> > frightens me, because the actual concept of friendship itself (even in
> > FL) is affected.
> > As always, there are exceptions and cool stuff going on in these
> > "worlds", but at a global scope, it's a big mass of network connected
> > mediocrity which in my opinion obviously tends to pervert FL (reality)
> > by perverting the nature of relationships between people by
> > multiplying illusion (and thus lie).
> >
> > +++++
> > clemos
> >
> > On 3/6/07, fmadre at free.fr <fmadre at free.fr> wrote:
> >> joking apart, there seems to be a divide between people who are on
> >> myspace and those who are on second life. I think, judging from the
> >> examples I've seen, that second life is favored by those who are
> >> enclined to new ageism and have this mythological idea that technology
> >> free them from their bodily constraints whereas myspace is favored by
> >> those who see it as an extension of their real life activities and
> >> encounters
> >>
> >> so, I definitely prefer myspace
> >> http://www.myspace.com/oncleho
> >> although I never go there anymore
> >>
> >> and I will never go to second life
> >>
> >> f.
> >>> On 3/6/07, claudia westermann <media at ezaic.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> we are too old for myspace
> >>>
> >>> not at all !
> >>> look :
> >>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/06/eveningnews/main1286130.shtml
> >>
> >>
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