More precision/ Re: [syndicate] Un lien pour le rock

[A. G-C]

My choice is not very different of you proper one, fmadre. You know that. It
is a question of different sensibilities of radicalism. And I parish that if
you were so much more radical than any others, may be you would not honor
the callings from fluctuat to present Pleine peau, not because they would be
a bad support, but being the proper question of public presentation (that is
a form of publicity) between Independents) or such as criticist in Un homme
moderne (same thing: not being the question of the media but the question of
the public communication of your actgs, that you forwarded largely after
writing an article, any years ago)..

Exactly where and how do you win your food dear friend?

Elli by singing.

I have never received one copec from any association, administration, of
one, to produce and advance criticalsecret thanks the same free investment
by the contributors. I have never received one copec for the collective
public presentations I have organized. Mostly coming from an allocation of
prime to leave The Observatory of the Television,that was a few but certain
following the price of the server through the years more all other things as
offer any festive meetings.. Then stop to pay my own personal assurance
(tribute to social security) for two full years, then right now thanks
several credits and free gifts around me by ones of my very proximity ‹
friends and family.

I have made my radical choices at the moment I have left Leo Scheer and I
have begin to produce and edit independently. I have no lesson to recveive
from any part. Not more from yours. Exactly as from my part respecting yours
one I have not lesson to give you.

But since any years yet now that is not interesting for me having absolutely
the last word, I stop to post whatever the abusive answers that may be I
should receive

On 29/09/06 12:52, "A. G-C" <guibertc at criticalsecret.com> probably wrote:

> 
> 
> Sorry to have problem of clear expression in this language. Of course yes, at
> last associated distribution and diffusion in relay of independent editions,
> but to keep safe in such trading rules, while having to do the work by
> yourself..
> 
> V2 being at last the intervenant final major in your independent work as an
> obligation to be viewed as official publication, exactly the same process of
> vectoring that Murdoch effects on independent Internet through My space.
> 
> It is the real form of totalitarian marketing power nowadays. Not more money
> to produce, but stole a part of the final work as a tax command by a mafia
> more under his proper alternative logo... I mean that nothing could exist if
> the independent would not run as fundamental energy of this world but nothing
> being a such production without being the subject of the final power by the
> vectors.
> 
> That is exactly the subject of A hacker manifesto by McKenzie Wark to show how
> we are in a vicious circle of leave the society, stop having the happiness of
> creating. Make the breakdown of the creation. But would could pretend that
> mostly artists and creative would possibly radically act it?
> 
> Minor alternative is over ‹unfortunately
> 
> 
> ///////////////////////////
> I totally approve what you say here.
> 
> That was really the problem for Elli who is one of the most loyally attached
> with free blogs since her first site, whatever the defy (can be "Femme fatale"
> of which she drawn the jewel, can be fashion, or another associated creation,
> she has always run with a LoGz without pretend to have the design by herself).
> 
> But making an autonomous edition/ production (preparing it since a lot of
> years), her professional friends have told her that as independent alternative
> editor herself, she would not have to play all so much radical as communicator
> of her proper edition diffusion and distribution ‹ that she has absolutely to
> conquest front of FR majors because at their view having obviously chose a
> territory of concurrence, by denying their order and service). That is not a
> war (they could kill anyone) but the status quo where Murdoch pals its
> interstitial offer of free publicity in a sort..
> 
> Otherwise she would run to a catastrophe with their proper international
> editing. That is why she is not on MySpace Fr but on myspace.com... But
> following to renew her proper personal site thanks Loz in a new LoGz. For here
> the question is not of money to pay or not a site. Even if you cannot have a
> self edition and the money in your pocket in the same time;-) It is really a
> critical choice.
> 
> Yes it is a hard problem that I have hardly discussed with Loz who gave me to
> notice it since the last Clic d'ors award in FR... That is properly scandalous
> not having any tracks of scandal on Internet...(I have sent a critical
> analysis of it on certain lists).
> 
> Of which I have taught in a thematic debate on another list, concerning the
> question of internet phone mobility, that more mobile connexion increasing
> more the privatization of Internet by the mobile operators or by the majors is
> a bubble increasing by tending to the totality. And much more easy through the
> web2 as it does not need beta marks.. Soon if you will not have your blog
> quote in link in any pages from such private bubbles, even free bubbles thanks
> private major holding, who will found your site online as all the site books
> tenses to disappear (noted Loz)?
> 
>  That is the paradox of the democracy in free software and the pragmatic
> opportunism by the vectors playing the free access for teh readers and the
> captive edition for the editors...
> 
> 
> On 29/09/06 11:23, "fmadre at free.fr" <fmadre at free.fr> probably wrote:
> 
>> Quoting "A. G-C" <guibertc at criticalsecret.com>:
>>> Sorry Murdoch but Elli:
>> 
>> Murdoch is very happy that his service has become de rigueur for music artist
>> promotion. It's a total (internet) catastrophe.
>> I wonder what is the point of having your own website AND a myspace account.
>> 
>> f.
>> 
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