[syndicate] New morning / Un matin

Fri Feb 17 17:21:20 CET 2006

Aliette, don't you have an 'unmoderate' mailing list of your own, or somethun'
like that, somewhere ?

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> HE TALKED ME OF THAT AT THE EXACT MOMENT WE MET AGAIN - NOT ME as I did not
> know of his professional position because I had not seen him since twenty
> years !!!
>
> All near a person dying your dirty noises were coming from a person I had
> not seen since twenty years !
>
> More I had a part of my family at Montpellier and more friends to hear that
> as a hurt to themselves !
>
> So I could not know that you would worked with him.
>
> And more he told me of you age and of your life - to try to apologize in
> your place - and more more he told me that you currently insulted a lot of
> persons as a funny mode.
>
> Who has made the worst is YOU not ME near the bed of a common friend dying
> !!! Never I could tell of you as I ignored all of his job !
>
> And he told me of his unconfort facing a sound of me from ctgr part when he
> asked him if it was of me really - of the same person as a crazy fool but
> not that way - and  of a proposition to dinner from your part of which he
> preferred not without telling more...  Anyway the bad feeling to me was
> installed as we had not a good contact right after... In a situation where
> anything is conflictual all around a person important going far from the
> life.
>
> I say of it in public because it is of public which all your act against me
> they were.
> Now ciao. But do not wait from my part of apologizes
>
> On 17/02/06 17:01, "clemos" <cl3mos at gmail.com> probably wrote:
>
>> On 2/17/06, A. G-C <guibertc at criticalsecret.com> wrote:
>>> There are lists to flame and list without flames.
>>
>> yet, on both, one is _free_ to flame...
>>
>>> If I have understand as well as possible what you say : a list which is not
>>> exactly the one you wish it cannot exist. It is a model of large vision of
>>> the difference as life on the earth.
>>
>> I'm just defending freedom of speech, and the fact that "flaming" is
>> definitely part of freedom of speech. (at least _your_ definition of
>> "flaming" which seems to be : "disagreeing strongly with someone")
>> then ( unmoderate && flameless ) cannot coexist in a truly democratic
>> context, unless there is some kind of "censorship", or at least
>> "method for shutting one's mouth" behind.
>> I agree there can be rules, but they must be pronouced, known, and
>> agreed, so that one can choose to accept the rules or leave.
>> which has never been the case on your lists.
>>
>>> No problem it is everytime the strange opposite vision of the democracy
>>> which is supposed implicit.
>>
>> exactly.
>> the problem is : you and me can talk about that here, but not on your lists.
>> don't you think it's actually a problem ?
>>
>>> Anyway the pass and the link to unsubscribe are both in the message of
>>> bienvenue.
>>
>> sarkospams do have those things too.
>>
>>> By your way the newspaper article that ctgr and clemos (as he did know
>>> nothing of me at this moment) played against me one year ago to have their
>>> little funny scoop in Libération (nothing is bad to be notorious;-), which
>>> was a defamatory public Press article against my works, was become your
>>> object of reality : you needed to get me appearing under this face that was
>>> your face of me not mine. And you are successful between you.
>>
>> stop playing the victim, and you'll see you wont be a victim anymore.
>> ctgr and the journalists are the only responsibles of this article, so
>> please leave me alone with this.
>> by the way, this article is _not_ defamatory at all in my opinion.
>>
>>> And what of my former friend searching money from the administration to you
>>> at Montpellier as he did not see me since twenty years but hearing soon of
>>> me from this special part as yours?
>>
>> I didn't talk to him about you _at all_. we have loads of more
>> interresting subjects to deal with.
>> by the way, I have to ask you to keep this friend of mine out of this
>> business.
>> as you know him, you should understand he has other things to deal
>> with for the moment than this particulary insignifiant conversation
>> you and I are having.
>> and please stop bugging me by invoquing the persons we both know. it
>> doesn't make any sense in the discussion and moreover isn't very
>> respectful to them, nor to both you and me when it's about an actual
>> _friend_ we have in common.
>> please don't do that, it's really sad.
>>
>> ++++++
>> clemos
>>
>>> It is not so beautiful as way of life this one you have choosen you know?
>>>
>>> I should have be silent and have without delay a lawsuit: that was not my
>>> cup of tea. Beware of your ill will; too many mournings strew our lives...
>>> More negative vibrations cannot give open vision.
>>>
>>> All is very obvious right now. I am happy to know of it. Every thing I know
>>> get me more
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/02/06 15:42, "clemos" <cl3mos at gmail.com> probably wrote:
>>>
>>>> a flameless but yet unmoderate list is a dead list
>>>> an unmoderate list where you are insulted and unsubscribed by the mods
>>>> just because you don't agree with them or insult them _back_ is a
>>>> totalitarian list. (typical 21st century
>>>> you-must-agree-and-shut-up-because-after-all-I-m-nice-with-you-happy-opened-
>>>> po
>>>> sitivist-tolerant-and-you-are-not
>>>> totalitarism)
>>>> a list where you are subscribed without asking for that is a spam list.
>>>> a list with no humour is ... well, just a crappy list.
>>>> +++++
>>>> clemos
>>>>
>>>> On 2/16/06, Cyrill Duneau <cduneau at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> that's nice from you. on my part, go on with criticalsecret,
>>>>> which is fine
>>>>> for me.
>>>>> but i keep thinking you are not the good person to create an unmoderated
>>>>> list.
>>>>>
>>>>> "A. G-C" <guibertc at criticalsecret.com> wrote:
>>>>>  work your real art (which from my part I have not judged on) instead of
>>>>> looking at me.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Go on to create
>>>>>
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