[syndicate] New morning / Un matin

Thu Feb 16 19:19:01 CET 2006

At last : 3 members only were temporary unsusbcribed and not banned : they
were not everybody they were at all three under a total of 89 (as they were
in this time) and after a long moment of patience; and it was not to
everything but on a singular disposition to protect from a putsch against me
as admin privilege.

So I have gone away. I keep free from any list.

On 16/02/06 19:07, "A. G-C" <guibertc at criticalsecret.com> probably wrote:

> Please read the rule of the game: that is self-moderated. Admins can remind to
> subscribers to the objective it can be respected.
> The project is interesting but needs to be self-curated for any chance of
> existence; nettime-fr-raw was a list without rule, so now  let us try with the
> rule and we¹ll see... We want to create and to have any chance of collective
> cognition. NettimeFrRawNewMorning has no owner but admins more one admin
> privilege to decide at last. Being to keep of a new disaster of
> misunderstanding collective decisions.
> 
> In nettime-fr-raw we were 3 active admins under a total of active 5 to decide:
> that was a perfect democratic disposition of the decision which was not
> respected by a minority between the 5: at last it is only one owner under the
> five after he played populism to any subscribers by a way he can hold the flow
> of communication of the list under the pretext of a neutral position. It is
> not interesting nor progressive to fight in such a reality. So to create
> another universes is my personal critical way.
> 
> Life in research from experiment is to recommence.
> 
> What Robin makes in nettime-fr-raw as he cannot go away because of the machine
> more of the new owner it is no more that playing really the troll under his
> real face to show how anybody could do it playing the role of the owner. It is
> a caricature of power that he offers as critical acts of an absurd disposition
> in the fake of the democracy which is quoted.
> 
>  So humour from your part is radically missing.
> 
> The debate from my part is over. I create this sort of synergies and thinking
> the life is a beautiful miracle.
> 
> A.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/02/06 18:38, "Cyrill Duneau" <cduneau at yahoo.com> probably wrote:
> 
>> A list cannot be unmoderated if you Aliette are one of the owners/moderators.
>> 
>> for a quick reminder, Aliette used to unsubscribe everybody on nettime-fr-raw
>> (she was a mod - on an unmoderated list) who was saying anything that
>> displeased her. the problem is that this list was created for the sake of
>> unmoderation. And she couldn't bear it. Now all her friends are trying to put
>> the list down through many different ways. I couldn't cope up and I
>> unsubscribed. These people are obviously anti-democratic and should be fought
>> each time necessary. No french lobby is going to appear on the net, and none
>> in your name, Aliette. You have hurt enough people, You have done enough bad
>> and wrong things. Now start to think.
>> 
>> cyrill. 
>> 
>> "A. G-C" <guibertc at criticalsecret.com> wrote:
>>>  *Unmoderate List [NettimeFrRawNewMorning]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> N e t I s N e w T i m e I s N e x t M o r n i n g R a w I s N o t W a r F r
>>> O u t s i d e F r Since a night in February 2006, a month after an
>>> existential divide of nettime-fr-raw... By a certain day of the last
>>> seventies the US Weathermen in a Press release as their former announcements
>>> currently using a new title from a song of Bob Dylan informed that they
>>> would stop with the bombs. This is not a self-confession but an invitation
>>> to whom coming from another list in conflict will stop here with the double
>>> mass ( Elias Canetti -Masses et puissance ). In a sort that we can recover
>>> the precious differences. Life is to recommence... This list of discussion
>>> is multidisciplinary emergent, hope to be creative, Francophone not
>>> exclusive -but Anglophone or other spoken not being an obligation. As well
>>> "New morning" is a concert hall in Paris... [NettimeFrRawNewMorning] is
>>> unmoderated ( subscribers and netetiquette ). Sign: Louise as admin
>>> "privilï¿½ge". Thanks Robin and XavierL as admins. Thanks the subscribers to
>>> trust in the new.
>>> 
>>> N e u f E t N e t B r u t N o n L a G u e r r e P r o c h a i n M a t i n F
>>> a i t L e T e m p s F r E x t ï¿½ r i e u r F r Depuis une nuit de Fï¿½vrier
>>> 2006 - un mois aprï¿½s une division existentielle de nettime-fr-raw... Un
>>> certain jour,ï¿½ la fin des annï¿½es 70, les Weathermen firent un
>>> communiquï¿½ de
>>> Presse sous un nouveau titre extrait selon leur habitude d'une chanson de
>>> Bob Dylan, pour annoncer qu'ils arrï¿½taient avec les bombes. Ce n'est pas
>>> une
>>> confession personnelle mais une invitation ï¿½ qui venant d'une liste en
>>> conflit oubliera ici la masse double (Elias Canetti - Masses et puissance).
>>> De sorte que nous puissions retrouver les prï¿½cieuses diffï¿½rences. Vivre
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>>> ï¿½mergente, souhaitï¿½e crï¿½ative, francophone non exclusive mais sans
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>>> d'une salle de concert ï¿½ Paris... [NettimeFrRawNewMorning] n'est pas
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