[syndicate] Re: the media art center of 21C

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It's great to see how this discussion is evolving around such questions 
as do 'we' (still) need institutions?, or what kind of institutions, 
big, small, centred, decentralised/ What kind of functions should an 
organisation of whatever kind have? one organisation or institution for 
each function, or multiple in one institution? or rather a network of 
dispersed actors somehow facilitated to work in the media environment 
(probably via a funding scheme for artists then I presume?), etc. etc.

However, I am finding it hard to keep track of all arguments, and was 
wondering if anybody has an opportunity to do some summarising. I am 
too swamped with work at the start of the new season to do it myself - 
this would be much appreciated and very useful as otherwise important 
arguments might be lost, and at the end of the discussion we could be 
left with little more than the memory of the loudest voice, or the last 
one.....


Am 08.09.2005 um 14:49 schrieb furtherfield:

>
>  It is the way that certain institutions act and function regarding 
> their contril over history and the way that they impose canons, that I 
> am questiuoning here, not individuals.
>
>  m.
>>
>>  sure that andreas broeckmann is the living dead. now that's all to 
>> say.
>>
>>
>>  Am 08.09.2005 um 13:43 schrieb marc:
>>
>>>  may be Ars Electronica is dead & everything else is alive ;-)
>>>
>>>   m.
>>>>
>>>>   well, i think, media art isn't dead: it just smells funny.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Am 08.09.2005 um 12:36 schrieb Annick Bureaud:
>>>>
>>>>> A quick note after having read all the post and after having 
>>>>> "experienced" this year Ars Electronica.
>>>>>
>>>>>   We tend to think that there is one single kind of institution 
>>>>> that could fullfill the needs and goals in media art, so to speak 
>>>>> one kind of "media center". This is the model of the 90s (AEC, 
>>>>> ZKM, V2, ICC, etc.) where creation (experimental), lectures 
>>>>> (conferences) and exhibition and sometimes collection go into the 
>>>>> same building.
>>>>>
>>>>>   It seems to me that now as media art is part of art in general, 
>>>>> as it is growing into very different kind of practices, one single 
>>>>> kind of institution may be cannot fullfill all the goals and 
>>>>> audiences and there is probably a need for different kind of 
>>>>> institutions :
>>>>>   - one that would keep the "old stuff" (museum-like, could be in 
>>>>> "regular" contemporary art museum, but it is  not). Why keep the 
>>>>> "old stuff" ? because the coming generations have not seen it when 
>>>>> it was created and might enjoy too and learn from it
>>>>>   - one that would deal with large audience and also with 
>>>>> "education" in "new media art history". It is starting in some way 
>>>>> but it has to be enlarged. How ? Where ?
>>>>>   - one that would be more experimental and cutting-edge but today 
>>>>> there is no longer one aspect (if there has been any in the past 
>>>>> !).
>>>>>
>>>>>   Annick
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   dies ist eine e-mail-sonderankündigung im rahmen der
>>>>   frankfurter sommerakademie für politische kunst
>>>>   und wird unterstützt von http://netzwissenschaft.org/
>>>>
>>>>
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