Carla Del Ponte on the end of The Hague and the future of war crimes prosecution
Ivo Skoric
ivo at reporters.net
Sat Oct 9 06:32:06 CEST 2004
From: www.iwpr.net / Del Ponte's speech in Belgrade:
DEVOLVING WAR CRIMES JUSTICE
Local prosecutors and judges have to focus on building up their
capacity for domestic war crimes prosecutions.
By Carla del Ponte
The debate on war crimes in almost every country of the former
Yugoslavia is not subsiding. It is alive and present in daily life
and the media: who is most responsible; whose sufferings were the
greatest? As the German philosopher Karl Jaspers (1883-1969) said,
"Suffering differs in kind and most people have sense only for their
kind. Everyone tends to interpret great losses and trials as a
sacrifice. But the possible interpretations of this sacrifice are so
abysmally different that, at first, they divide people."
It is no easy task to investigate and prosecute those responsible for
war crimes when views are so divided, and with such a lack of trust
among neighbours. And I wonder, is it easier for local courts to deal
with tribunal cases, or to launch their own war crimes cases? Why do
politicians and the public often demand domestic trials instead of
trials in The Hague? Why is it better for Serbs to be tried in
Serbian courts and Croats to be tried in Croatian courts? What kind
of fair trial can be expected when the same people who demand local
trials for the accused stress that these accused people are innocent?
Transparent trials are one solution. It is a common understanding
that the most authoritative rendering of the truth is possible only
as a result of judicial inquiry, and that major prosecutions can
generate a comprehensive record of past violations. Truth is
constituted by multiple facts and perspectives, each of which is
vulnerable to distortion, denial, rationalisation, and refutation.
How often we see this in the former Yugoslavia, where nine years
after Dayton, people cannot agree on the basic facts, and politicians
still argue about every aspect of the former Yugoslavia and the armed
conflicts that led to its dissolution.
The other aspect of this point is that almost everybody is concerned
only about those who are suspected or accused. Few speak about the
victims and their right to justice and a fair trial. Parliaments even
adopt laws concerning the interests of the accused - I haven't heard
about any such regulations and laws about victims and their rights.
Turning to the challenges facing the domestic courts when it comes to
the legacy of the ICTY and local war crimes prosecutions, these are
multiple and of the same nature as for us in the tribunal. They are
both legal and political. Leaving aside the latter, it is
unquestionable that the tribunal has amassed enormous experience and
evidence in the last 11 years. This ought to be used by the domestic
courts to maximum extent.
The wealth of the ICTY evidence includes judgements and motions,
documents, exhibits, witness statements, videos and transcripts of
the trials. Apart from the judicial record, the Office of the
Prosecutor possesses more than 4.5 million pages of documents, more
than 12,000 hours of video/audio records, hundreds of maps and other
items. Not all the ICTY collection was used in trials so far, and
parts probably will never be used due to the lack of time. The
question is how to make it possible for the domestic courts to use
this material. We are willing to share everything we can already now,
on proper judicial request, subject to understandable restrictions.
It is no secret that hundreds, even thousands of perpetrators of
serious war crimes have not even been charged. They are often seen by
their victims in the street, still holding important positions. My
office intends to transfer to the domestic courts dossiers of
unfinished investigations and investigative materials. It will then
be up to the domestic judicial and prosecutorial authorities to act
on these cases. This will start happening next year and will
represent a serious test for the maturity of the domestic courts.
The domestic courts must not act only upon the ICTY cases. They were
always expected to launch their own cases, though all the indications
show that for different reasons it has not happened. For example, in
Bosnia and Herzegovina, criminal files have been submitted to my
office for review against some 5,908 persons but only around 90
persons have been brought before the courts. In Croatia the process
of reviewing hundreds of cases tried in absentia is still underway
and many of these cases are being dismissed for lack of evidence.
Serbia and Montenegro is just beginning the process which has to
bring those responsible for atrocities elsewhere to justice.
Domestic prosecutions for war crimes will face the problem of
suspects hiding in "friendly" states, or being protected by interest
groups. Regional cooperation and a clear political will by the
authorities is the only remedy for this challenge. Recent initiatives
in the field of regional cooperation concerning war crimes, with
support of the OSCE, UNDP, ICTY and others, are most welcome.
Although international criminal trials are laudable, as they assign
accountability for mass atrocities to individuals at the high level,
they have limitations. Their focus leaves several categories
untouched - such as lower-level perpetrators. These include community
members, outsiders who may have contributed to the outbreak of
violence, and "bystanders" who did not participate in crimes but did
not intervene to stop them, either. In terms of law, criminal
responsibility is individual. But in terms of justice and
reconciliation, the complicity of those who stood by or
cheered a vicious leader, or who elected a war criminal to represent
them, cannot be omitted. This could be much better dealt with by the
relevant countries themselves.
The countries of the former Yugoslavia all have reasons to embrace
the tribunal as their own court, which it is. They should look to the
ICTY as an aid in shedding any feeling of collective responsibility
by their nations, and as a source of jurisprudence, evidence and
practice. They have an interest in the optimal functioning of the
tribunal because they cannot yet prosecute those most responsible for
the crimes and devastation of the past decade.
Justice calls for perpetrators to answer for their crimes in a court
of law. At the same time, different societies have different
understandings about law and expectations of justice. There is little
understanding in the former Yugoslavia of the concept of command
responsibility. Only the responsibility of direct perpetrators is
accepted there (for decades leaders were regarded as untouchable, for
example). That is why there is a need to learn from the experience of
the international court.
Let me illustrate what I said so far by an example from the Croatian
media, which speaks for itself. Soon after announcement about the
indictment against General Mirko Norac, a Zagreb daily, Jutarnji
list, sent a reporter to the seat of the crime for which he is
accused - the villages in the Medak Pocket of Citluk, Pocitelj,
Ornica and Divoselo. The intention was to ask inhabitants what they
thought of the Norac indictment. The task was impossible as the three
locals interviewed had returned in the last decade, and lived in
isolation without electricity and were unaware of yesterday's
headlines. The reporter said the three returnees lived like animals
amongst torched and razed houses, surrounded by mines. One returnee
commented that he did not know if Norac was to blame for these
crimes, adding that the war policy of both sides was to
destroy and torch as much as possible. "The war shouldn't have
happened," he said.
This short story tells me a lot about victims and command
responsibility. To put it bluntly, rather than in legal terms, I do
not care who the aggressors or defenders were, nor do I care about
big words used by either side to justify their "truth". I care about
the victims of these conflicts and their right to justice and I
appeal to my colleagues prosecutors to be on the same side.
Let me also recall the words of a Danish physicist, the Nobel prize
winner, Niels Bohr, "The opposite of a profound truth may well be
another profound truth."
To conclude, the time of uncertainty and the unbearable pressure of
new indictments have gone. But this must not be the end of the story.
Impunity should not be tolerated and this is our moral and
professional obligation as lawyers. Using the words of another Nobel
laureate, the Russian writer Solzhenitsyn, "When we neither punish
nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial
old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from
beneath new generations."
While we concentrate on the closure of the tribunal and our
completion strategy, local prosecutors and judges have to focus on
building up their capacity for domestic war crimes prosecutions.
Apart from changes in legislation, such as improvements to their
legal procedure, additional areas are essential for their success if
the task is to be taken seriously. I refer here again to regional
cooperation between Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia and Montenegro in regard
to war crimes (exchange of information, legal assistance and
extraditions) and the issue of protection of witnesses.
I subscribe fully to the statement issued after the recent seminar in
Dubrovnik on the issue of regional cooperation on war crimes, "Where
war crimes are concerned, there can be no middle ground. Impunity
thrives on political impotence and moral ambivalence. It is a black
and white issue: either we repudiate war crimes and prosecute the
perpetrators, or future generations will judge us to have been
accomplices by acquiescence."
We in the ICTY, especially in the Office of the Prosecutor, are used
to criticism. We have no immunity in this regard. We have not much
time left, and I think that when the tribunal is finally closed, the
public, especially the media, will miss it. Just imagine - media in
Belgrade, Zagreb and Sarajevo without sensations and speculation
about ICTY? I appeal to colleagues prosecutors, do not disappoint
your media, otherwise they will run out of subjects!
Jokes aside, remember that war crimes do not expire with time: They
are, and will always remain, war crimes - especially for the victims
and their families.
This is an edited version of a speech delivered by ICTY chief
prosecutor Carle del Ponte in Belgrade at an international conference
on Octeober 1-2, organised by the Humanitarian Law Centre in
cooperation with the Council of Europe.
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