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sondheim - pf f f. cooking is not immolating MOTHER FUCKER !!

anna - since i already knew what you write of travel a step further and know what i know

since you like kantor - `it got people to think - that's good`



frederic - "I see no violence here" - there is no violence here unless you see it. 
            OPEN YOUR EYES !!!  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0125659/



>>I would not be very sorry if you quit the list
>>really
>>
>
>I would be very sorry if you quit the list
>really
>
>Claudia

WE WOULD ALL BE VERY SORRY IF ANNA QUIT !!!!!!!!



>The selected artists address 

THEIR MORTALITY / QUIT







anna balint

>I think it is more than self-immolation of nn or DG.
>I beleive not just that violence is inherent to nn's language, 
>but these lines are simply instigating. 
>
>>no he does not. he is not a human being. he is a MOTHER FUCKER.
>>Appeasing MOTHER FUCKERS is not an act of friendliness.
>>Liquidating them is an act of friendliness so, please continue.
>
>Since i have learnt conflict resolution, i know too well
>the techniques of  making conflicts. First dehumanize the 
>counter/part, the other, and than liquidate them.
>And all this happens in a context where many people experience how short
>the distance is between hate words and violent acts. 
>
>For all i know syndicate was among the few lists
>that was always open not just for announcements, 
>criticism, but also for art productions.
>But this time any further coexistence with nn became impossible
>for me.
>
>I don't know what the other members think, or if there is anybody
>who would like to continue the list's moderation in my place,
>but if there is no administrative measure i can take against hate
>speech, i am going to quit the list.
>
>greetings,
>Anna 
>
>
>Appeasing MOTHER FUCKERS is not an act of friendliness.
>Liquidating them is an act of friendliness so, please continue.
>3/24/2004 12:17:18 PM, Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com> wrote:
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>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:16:50 -0500 (EST)
>>From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>
>>To: Poetics <POETICS at listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu>
>>Subject: ko
>>
>>
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>>somebody ko/ing ginsberg, nn's occidental motherfuckers
>>
>>i've wanted to write and quite unsure how to begin
>>none of us are safe from attack innuendo
>>there is no persepctive but the present which is always ripped apart
>>
>>ginsberg's howl freed me then and frees me now
>>he was an outspoken jew among others and other things
>>he read with the force of the rav derrida deconstructing abomb america
>>i read him first at 13 then on and off forever
>>
>>but the point of the hatred here after the fact and the era
>>coupled with anne's publicity blurb when something else was needed
>>
>>and over there on syndicate nn seems self-immolating
>>whether she's a corporate entity on the run
>>or someone going through a hard political time
>>violence inheres to her, she drags the slaughter with her
>>
>>and it seems to me that the thugs in power have already won
>>rumsfeld and hamas and israel all tearing everything limb from limb
>>spam's brought 29% already using email less and less
>>who wants to read the violence of viagra the violence of fraud
>>
>>bush and blair thug-script leaks into what was once communality
>>and when i heard allen read it was that, community around him
>>the gathering and the chanting which actually worked and overcame
>>if just for a moment
>>
>>and nn had her sense of human but now drags skulls
>>like i said, like i said
>>my own words and works try to burst their bounds, there's more hatred
>>
>>there are mother-fuckers everywhere, why not deconstruct those words
>>
>>for myself, i have to admit indiscretions in the past
>>psychological violence to other people, self-destruction, whimpering
>>inability to see people for who or what they really are
>>i'm more guilty than ginsberg, my soul is ash at best
>>
>>eleven years or so after auschwitz and he's penning howl
>>against a smug america which today runs our country to the ground
>>
>>if we can't learn to listen, we won't die trying, we'll just die
>>
>>god or someone else help us, or someone else
>>
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>>_
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