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anna balint
epistolaris at freemail.hu
Wed May 7 17:26:46 CEST 2003
dear Alan Sondheim,
do you consider these transformation programs
art? Or you think that each text generated with it
- is an individual art piece? Or we should look to
you work as conceptual-or visual poetry?
If i have to take a position, i prefer to think that
none of them is poetry. They don't fit
to any category with which i define computer poetry:
- generative and combinatory character
- random and aleatory character
- interactivity
I understand that computer poetry involves the
charactersitics of the medium in the work,
and i don't treat separately each text
generated with the help of a program,
that would much limit the area of research,
but i consider the whole
program and texts as one work, to the degree
that i include ephemerality and irreproducibility
in the list of characteristics of computer poetry.
Some works that inspire my criteria:
1959 Theo Luc devolops a program on the computer of
the Technical Univeristy in Stuttgart that combined
40 words and generates gramatically correct sentences
1959 Brion Gysin together with the mathematician
Ian Sommerville permute the words of his poem
'I Am That I Am' with a computer, and
also in 1961 the poem 'Junk is No Good Baby'
1964 Jean A. Baudot publishes 'Machine a ecrire',
the first volume with poems generated on the
computer, at Les éditions du jour, Montréal
1965 Emmett Williams permuted on the computer
the 10 most used words of Dante's Divina Commedia
[occhi, mondo, terre, dio, maestro, ciel, mente,
dolce, amor] and genereted a 213 lines long litany
of them, and also in 1966 he generated a poem
with the title 'IBM'
1967 Baudot's book inspired Pierre Moretti to
present with his amateur theater company
Saltimbaques a theater piece generated on
computer. Baudot generated the text on the
basis of a vocabulary defined by Moretti.
They presented the piece with the title
'Équation pour un homme actuel' in the
Pavillion de la Jeunesse in Quebec at the
Young Theater Festival. It became a scandal.
After the sixths show the Public Morals Department
of the Montreal Police accused the piece of
immorality and they banned the play.
[it was on stage on a boat in the port of Montreal,
but out of the Canadian juridictional waters,
to cover the expenses of the process]
1969 Svante Bodin, member of the Swedish group
KVAL generates a part of his work 'Transition to
Majorana Space' with a computer
1973 Richard W. Bailey edits the first anthology
of Computer Poems at Protagonnising Press, Michigan,
USA. The volume include 17 writers from Canada,
England, and USA, among others Marie Boroff,
Robert Gaskins, Louis T. Millic, Edwin Morgan,
John Morris, Archie Donald, Noreen Geend.
Edwin Morgan published already in 1967 in
Emmett Williams's anthology of Concrete Poetry
a poem composed on computer from 1963 with the
title 'jollymerry' (Concrete Poetry, Something
Else Press, 1967)
1975
at the end of the sixties Raymond Queneau and
François Le Lyonnais found OULIPO, and their
first manifesto states that they plan to use
computers for reserach and generating texts.
Later among others Italo Calvino, Georges Perec,
Jacques Roubaud, Michèle Métail and Harry Mathews
joined the group. In 1975 Raymond Queneau publishes
his Cent mille milliards de poemes, and the OULIPO
presented the program developed for at Europalia
in Brussels. Readers were able to generate themselves
variants and print them.
1973
in the beginning of the seventies Jean-Pierre Balpe,
Pierre Lusson and Jacques Rubaud founded the
literature research group Alamo, that studies and
generates computer literature. Jacques Rubaud constructed
numerous literary softwares, the most known
is 'Alexandrins artificiels', that generates infinite
number of perfect alexandrin verses. He introduced in
the computer several thousand words of classic literature,
but the verses that he generated did not cohere in a poem.
Rubaud composed together with Pierre Lussonnal and
Paul Braffort the plagiarist generators 'Rimbaudelaire'
and 'Mallarm'. Jean-Pierre Balpe is known for the his
orientation towards literary texts generated on natural
languages, his most famous generator is 'Poèmes d'amour'
that generates love lithanies and the '1536 peties contes
parfois tristes ou pervers' for which he introduced in the
computer 620 different structures and several thousand words.
He published 1536 variants of the tales that he selected
on the random basis out of the 10 on 45th power possible
variants.
1985 Tibor Papp presented in the Pompidou Center
'Les très riches heures de l'ordinateur, n°1' -
the first dynamic computer generated visual poem
1989 Philippe Bootz, Jean-Marie Dutez, Frédéric de
Velaz, Claude Maillard, Tibor Papp found and edit Alire,
a magazine that publishes computer poetry only. It
appeared twice a year first on floppy, later on CD-ROM,
in the nineties several magazines started that were
possible to consult on electronic form only,
Jean-Pierre Balpe also started the Caos magazine.
and the nineties...
greetings,
anna
Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>:
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