Subject: Re: From:
Fr. M.
fmadre at free.fr
Thu Feb 6 23:05:20 CET 2003
To: ?
It has come to my attention that some posts are collated on the Nettime
mailing list under the monicker of "Unstable Digest", well yes I admit that
i've been aware of this because Netochka objected to it a while ago but
then again I am not subscribed to nettime and have stopped looking at the
archives years ago too.
Still I have several objections to make which are not aimed at
discontinuing this service that Florian, Beatrice and Alan are providing to
the Nettime community but rather would hopefully lead to explain how some
of those objections can benefit _our communities instead. This is namely
why I choose the Syndicate list to voice my concerns, because it is
currently one of my preferred out/inlet and is where I see that this debate
can be fruitful; also because some (most ?) of the thruput to the UD comes
from Syndicate, our list.
First, here's an example of this UD:
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0301/msg00086.html
Of course, in this particular edition there is a post by me, in response to
August Highland cross posting twice a day here as you might remember. I
chose this example because I specially want to point out that I am not
opposing redistribution of mail even in this case where no permission is
asked to the original sender of the message. After all, as far as I know,
they have been published on mailing-lists for all subscribers to see and
some of those MLs have archives which can be accessed w/o subscription.
This could lead us into a probably more tiring than tired debate about
private vs. public and I expect the Unstablists to have thought long and
hard about those issues in relation to their digestion and regurgitation
over Nettime.
As I believe they have thought long and hard about the way their production
(for it is theirs and only theirs ultimately) is formatted. For this is my
main theoretical gripe about UD and frankly when I noticed this it gave me
an irresistible _physical pain in the thorax: the posts chosen for whatever
reason they were chosen by our determined and relentless readers have been
stripped off the "To:" header. The only remaining "To:" being, of course,
not "us" but the nettime mailing list - in this case, again this is not
about or against nettime this is about understanding, yup, email . Because
what remains of an email which has been sent "To:" no one ? Even Nettime is
aware that spammers are in the business of pretending to send personalized
one-to-one communications
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0301/msg00146.html
so what to make of this deliberate castration ? I do not claim to know what
was the purpose of this decision but can put forward two interpretations
for it and will let the perpetrators answer (because those are merely
questions), if they wish to do so, "To: syndicate at anart.no"
One is that the Unstable Digest is a piece of artwork in itself, a collage
which like all collages is not the mere sum of its parts but subsumes them.
Which leads to the fact that the actual makers of the artpiece are not the
expeditors of the "original" mails but the collagists themselves; in
that frame of mind the "From:" header should have been removed as well and
this is not the case; The UD is not a piece of artwork, a collage, it is a
Digest but a digest which is very different in nature to all the moderated
digests that make their way to Nettime; it is a digest of posts that were
not sent "To:" Nettime but elsewhere, a digest of posts that would (I
suspect that policy over there has not changed a lot) have been rejected
if sent directly, or cross-posted to, the list. It is a digest of the
foreign. Unlike Netochka's messages which are in fact very much collagist
taking bits and pieces of mail received privately and publicly and turning
them into something new, all the same highlighting that communication by
email is always a collage.
so, if it is not a piece, not a collage, this digest is what it seems at
first a collection of pieces that use the email medium as a genre within
art and also some other pieces which are reflections on that genre, hence
the inclusion of my post, perhaps. And this is where the exclusion of the
"To:" appears to me to be at best a failure and at worst a dangerous
decision which would encourage unthoughtful misuse of mailing lists as
springboard for abusive promotion instead of communities. A failure, first,
because an important aspect of mail - and it is somewhat sad to have to
state the obvious - lies in the context where they are bred and of course
much of this context is made of who you are talking to, or at least with. A
mail with no recipient, no "To:", is a void. It is a sheep that is lost and
will be eaten whole by the preying wolf that grabs it and adds his own
"To:" making it entirely his own. A dangerous decision because it indeed
validates the degrading practice of cross posting, a practice that many of
the specialists of the genre we are adressing here have adopted,
shamelessly trampling over the context that we are trying to build here, by
assuming that all the oulets they use is ultimately the same: a certain
number of subscribers, an audience that adds up numerically.
In fact, after that particular email to august on the list, we tried to
discuss this offlist and at some point august asked me what posting
something specific to syndicate would be. Well, I would say that this is
mostly very fragile and intangible, that this is something we will always
be trying to define by not constricting it, and that this fragility we will
try to protect and also cherish, that this specificity will not be digested
or cross posted to hell.
ok, I'm sick and tired, physically again as well. You can always write back
to me on this, I'm on syndicate.
f.
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