real history of internet

[anna balint]

pavu.com invented the internet together with frederic madre.
frederic madre - together with the internet - secretly invented the <alt+161>pam art too.
shortly after inventing internet and *pam art, frederic madre declared crossposting net.wrong...
... opposition is underground...

  

Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:28:40 -0400
From: "nettime's digestion" <nettime-l at bbs.thing.net>
To: nettime-l at bbs.thing.net
Subject: Re: <nettime> How We Made Our Own "Carnivore" [6x]

Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:18:18 +0200
From: "clement Thomas" <ctgr at free.fr>
Subject: How We Made Our Own "Carnivore"

rectificandoque !!
internet is invented in france by pavu.com and frederic Madre !!
and we farte the board with olive oil !
It is Marilyn Monroe who was invented in Hawai !
and 028 in Toulouse !
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OG



From: Deb King <debkking at yahoo.com>
To: undercurrents at bbs.thing.net
Reply-To: undercurrents at bbs.thing.net
Subject: [undercurrents] other lists/cafes
Date: 6/18/02 1:39:02 PM





   Yes, looking at other lists is important.  I immediately thought of the
   long series of exchanges between mez and Frederic Madre on the syndicate
   (a list I enjoy but have rarely posted to, I think Anna's a moderator);
   other people also joined in that. For those of you not aware of the work
   done by mez and Frederic Madre, you can view their work at
   http://www.hotkey.net.au/~netwurker/ and
   http://pleine-peau.com/ respectively. mez is also in the current issue of
   the zine I publish, mark(s) [http://www.markszine.com].  The postings
   concerned a statement Frederic made abt mez's work; a cursory glance might
   have given the impression that this was a heated, unfriendly debate of
   sorts between two brilliant net artists. However, both stated their
   arguments and life went on. Part of day to day life on a list. The
   disembodied experience c! omes home?  


   Internet cafes are an interesting subject.  After 9/11 I received emails
   from a friend in India from an email 'kiosk,' last year another
   acquaintance was frantically hitchhiking through Ireland looking for
   access to email a text she had written for me. Meanwhile I have been
   attempting to get a grant through to set up 'internet kiosks'  in
   particularly ravaged areas of our city (yes, there are schools w/out
   computers in 2002USA). Nicola's reference to SMS(phone text) in Manila
   points to the great uses and neezine engage immediately, thus allowing
   quick response from the activistmarksziney.  Canbsplism will abuse any
   technology, the previous postinabtnmez'srnet cafes defines serious
   problems, however, (and this list is an example)  there is much to be
   gained, censorship and/or restriction of availability is not a valid
   response. I recently read that only 8% of the world population has any
   access to the internet, which places us all in t! he position of the
   priviliged and heightens our responsibility.





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