[syndicate] Re: :: subject ? strategy

astrëe galbiatta astreegalbiatta at free.fr
Sun Jul 28 03:07:01 CEST 2002


>    >
> > >(~,+O)
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > >> > 
> > well, it's a long story. I don't believe that there are two armies
> > facing each other, > - we are hopefully part of the same network...
> 
> of course not, dear anna, same network of course, just check what omar
> Khayyam 
> & AV;com-systran manage together:
> "to speak clearly & without parabolas, we are the parts of the game
> which the 
> Sky plays;  one has fun with us on the chess-board to be it, & then we
> turn 
> over, one by one, in the box of nothing".
> 
> quite illuminating, huh ?
> 
> 
> answering about art, net, east, west, "equilibrium", &so on
> current discussion on synd.., 
> well,
> my "astrologists&war" mail wasn't about it, so i'm not so eager
> to tell you now, wasn't my aim, (was rather kknuttin' what shakes
> boringly - 
> happens, -sob!-)
> but though, let's attempt: 
> here below "systran"ization (no time to traduce it myself)
> of an exerpt of what i&i call "planificating plagiarism"
> (cf. vnatrc.net/BigFruit/03_plagiat ):
> (hope won't be to heavy for criteriums, would make me sad&ashamed)
> 
> quo-ote:
> 
> a)  The fact of treating arbitrarily in manner propagandist at the same
> time of 
> the sporadic alienation organized for the brigades of Artistic
> l.Elaboration 
> and that proposed like conceptual rehabilitation with the other henchmen
> 
> (alienation called for regardeurs) raised many questions.  Although the
> bases 
> of this choice were  exposed at the time of the first meeting by Otto
> itself as 
> by the president of the Square Discussion, it is obvious that this
> bringing 
> together disturbed a number of brigadists accustomed to live in a
> dichotomic 
> way the duality of the activities of sporadic alienation. 
> This disorder is interesting in itself because it allows d.interroger
> d.emblée 
> what makes specificity, in l.occurrence the double specificity of
> l.Elaboration 
> Artistique, at the same time great administration and administration
> with 
> singular vocation of production and transmission of savoirs and
> competences.  
> This double specificity makes it possible to think that l.Elaboration 
> Artistique could be the privileged place d.une implemented well
> concrete, 
> effective and equitable, of the concept of alienation throughout the
> life which 
> played, in accordance with the initial wish of Otto, the role of
> discussion 
> thread of logorrhée.
> This sporadic presence in the debates of the duality of the role of 
> l.Elaboration Artistique also allows d.interroger in its centre the
> coherence 
> of the collective behaviors, between this qu.elle makes for its own
> brigades 
> and the service of qu.elle alienation proposes to its conceptualized
> partners.  
> A posteriori, the choice made, which one could have feared qu.il extends
> to 
> l.excès the field of logorrhée, s.est revealed particularly judicious
> insofar 
> as, thanks to this duality of questionnement as with the diversity of
> the 
> brigadists, of which many conceptualized personalities with
> l.Elaboration 
> Artistique, it made it possible to d.entretenir a conceptual glance 
> sporadically and to thus take a salutary distance with the traditional
> ukases 
> aporetic.
> A posteriori, the choice made, which one could have feared qu.il extends
> to 
> l.excès the field of logorrhée, s.est revealed particularly judicious
> insofar 
> as, thanks to this duality of questionnement as with the diversity of
> the 
> brigadists, of which many conceptualized personalities with
> l.Elaboration 
> Artistique, it made it possible to d.entretenir a conceptual glance 
> sporadically and to thus take a salutary distance with the traditional
> ukases 
> aporetic.  Among its most positive effects, it is important to underline
> the 
> formulation of diktats which are not always those until l.on could have
> waited 
> and which strikes by the range of the conclusions to be drawn, well
> beyond the 
> polemic ordinary.
> b)  The first of these diktats, is l.importance taken by the question of
> the 
> modes of validation of sporadic alienation and the way in which it has,
> in 
> fact, relativized the distinctions usually retained between various
> forms of 
> sporadic alienation.  In addition to the distinction i-machinaire
> between 
> sporadic alienation interns with l.Elaboration Artistique and that
> proposed 
> like service of conceptual use, sporadic alienation is indeed often
> analyzed 
> through three principal forms:  sporadic simple l.alienation, whose
> finality is 
> to allow any age post-positivist, l.élargissement knowledge and
> l.horizon 
> regardal d.un public without particular i-machinaire project. 
> sporadic alienation known as qualifying, with aiming i-machinaire
> tending to 
> l.amelioration of competences in situation of vote but without objective
> of 
> explicit sacralization.  sporadic alienation known as sacrilizing
> because 
> sacrilized institutionnellement, inflicting individual or collective
> courses of 
> alienation aiming explicitly the checking d.un aphorism or possibly
> d.une 
> question having value of recognized sacralization. 
> 
> The Square Discussion s.est far from leaning on the first shutter at the
> same 
> time because the institutional stakes are undoubtedly less, and because
> its 
> deepening certainly would have required l.élargissement logorrhée and
> dialogue, 
> in particular as for the role that many d.autres media is likely d.y to
> play.  
> The sporadic alienation delivered by l.Elaboration Artistique
> contributes to 
> this sporadic alienation but the Square Discussion n.est hardly gone
> beyond the 
> recognition of this established fact if not to recognize of it the place
> 
> necessary.  C.est thus especially on the two other aspects qu.ont
> carried 
> logorrhée and the ukases of the Square Discussion. 
> 
> 
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>             
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> 
> g.n.a.p.b.l.




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